Fitz!

That was a thing of beauty, TBogg. It’s great to know that the editor of the Moonie Times thinks slavery is “ordained by God” and therefore not evil.

The real danger in all of this shit is that these people are beoming “normalized,” their eliminationist rhetoric is considered “okey-dokey” on TV and in mainstream news.

If people want to know why I got balls-to-the-wall on the Washington Post over the racism of Ben Domenech, it’s because of this shit. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

Seems to me that the saner people of this country who go on these shows need to stop playing along with this “he said/he ranted like a loony” format of corporate news and just call out the crazies on the air. How would that affect the profit-driven programming, to have the rational guests essentially derail the conflict format?

I was listening to Janeane Garofalo discuss how she initially felt she had to play the game when she started being a regular liberal guest, but she eventually got disgusted by being put in the position of treating rabid mouth-foamers as if they were reasonable and rational. These days I feel Rachel Maddow is compromising herself by doing exactly that, having been seduced by the arguing bow tie.

OfT: Nice graph of oil prices for the last year.
http://www.wtrg.com/daily/clfclose.gif
It will be interesting to see how much prices rise when the markets digest the latest.

I THOUGHT that gas prices conveniently went down for Christmas shopping then skyrocketed upwards again. Thanks John C. for confirming that.

Wolf or Chris or Brit should first be asked, point blank on camera, if they have ever accepted any type of compensation or remuneration for things they say on national TV, a la Armstrong Williams.

The irony of the Armstrong Williams case is that, as one of the very few black commentators on the national scene, it’s he who got busted for taking payola, while the hords of white pundocracy got off relatively unexamined.

This line of questions, ie = did you take money for propagandizing for Bushit Inc., should be put to the Blow Dried, Media Whores who pass themselves off as paragons of virtue and journalistic integrity.

C-SPAN’s Washington Journal quotes from the Washington Times every single day, thereby trumpeting its “legitimacy” through the airwaves on a regular basis. They think they’re “balancing” it out by also quoting from the NYT and WaPo, which, of course, is ridiculous.

As long as any network (especially C-SPAN) treats this trash as acceptable - every day, mind you - this type of racist, extremist publication will continue to be seen as mainstream.

Thanks for this, TBogg. The last link in your post goes to Armando’s 4/3 fdl post; is it supposed to go to The Great Society?

Tbogg +++++++++++

OT - from thread below, thanks to Lobster 125 Siun 147 Hugh 180 for info on some of the fallout and windpatterns.

– Tbogg, you rule, as always. Thx for showing up here at the sorority.

Just wanted to point out an added twist to this: when Mr.-Sly-Show-Host with the rusty rolodex decides to invite some hardcore wingnut with a known bee in his or her bonnet on to talk about “something completely different” in a fun, amicable atmosphere, it lends the casual (or clueless) viewer the impression that, “you know, I don’t know why everyone’s saying such bad things about that Coulter girl; she seems quite nice, really”. So now, just because she was on “Good Morning Bumfuck, Arkansas” to discuss the latest trends in hair styles she’s now been positioned as a more “neutral” pundit, and Mr. & Mrs. Clueless may perhaps sit up an listen (instead of recoiling) when Coulter next appears on their TV, but this time foaming at the mouth and serving up her signature throat-slashing rhetoric. “Never thought of it that way,”, says Mrs. Clueless… and she never should.

OfT: MSNBC Question of the Day
What concerns you most?
Economy
29%
Iraq
46%
Immigration
24%
* 18757 responses

Shez, if you’re there, I left a response at the end of the last late night thread to your ’sexism’ comment. Sorry I wasn’t able to respond to it sooner. I didn’t see it ’til late this morning, and I didn’t have the time ’til now.

If anyone else was offended by my remarks that night (#63 and #76), please see my explanation.

Newsweek’s Isikoff: “A Leaker-in-Chief?”
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12228726/site/newsweek/
…..”It is not clear how much Libby might have been freelancing and how much he was working under orders……”

Humor me, or be amused by me, perhaps and check out my EPU in the last thread, #256.
Thanks.. and great to see you Tbogg!

Why do comments take longer to type in as a thread has more in it? That’s an annoying bug

Speaking of racists, don’t forget Michael Savage. He’s a scary one.

And here in Salt Lake we have a weird one, “Kyle 2K”, a black right=wing radio host who constantly bashes blacks. His verbal attacks on the impoverished trapped in New Orleans after Katrina were shocking.

13: well, of course: Libby’s been charged with perjury and obstruction, so we shouldn’t believe anything he sez about Dear Leader (sound of Scooter slipping under bus…)

New band name: Green Basset Gills

ouch - that Valley Girl association….not to be confused our own VG!

Vermont Democrats call for Bush impeachment
Sat Apr 8, 2006 8:11 PM ET7
“RANDOLPH, Vermont (Reuters) - Democratic Party leaders in Vermont on Saturday passed a motion asking Congress to immediately begin impeachment proceedings against President Bush….”
http://today.reuters.com/news/.....ived=False

The spirit of Dorothy Thompson and Wm Shirer is alive and well on fdr - kudos kids!

More on the NSA domestic-to-domestic Internet surveillance:

Whistle-Blower Outs NSA Spy Room (from Wired News)

AT&T provided National Security Agency eavesdroppers with full access to its customers’ phone calls, and shunted its customers’ internet traffic to data-mining equipment installed in a secret room in its San Francisco switching center, according to a former AT&T worker cooperating in the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s lawsuit against the company.

And the technicians statement:

Wiretap Whistleblower’s Statement
(on Wired News website)

One of the documents listed the equipment installed in the secret room, and this list included a Narus STA 6400, which is a “Semantic Traffic Analyzer”. The Narus STA technology is known to be used particularly by government intelligence agencies because of its ability to sift through large amounts of data looking for preprogrammed targets. The company’s advertising boasts that its technology “captures comprehensive customer usage data … and transforms it into actionable information…. (It) provides complete visibility for all internet applications.”

My job required me to connect new circuits to the “splitter” cabinet and get them up and running. While working on a particularly difficult one with a technician back East, I learned that other such “splitter” cabinets were being installed in other cities, including Seattle, San Jose, Los Angeles and San Diego.

Read the full statement for what it’s worth.

i would like to spend a day in your mind tbogg. thanks for letting us in for the view, i know it must come naturally.

Tbogg, how nice to see you here. I had never heard of Malkin or Jonah or the rest of the lot until I started reading you…thanks a whole bunch. So many crazies, so little time.

that reminds me.. who is that crazy mom Tbogg used to write about? Is she still around?

Oh, the one with the children named Citronella, Brioche, Eulalia and Crumpet? Meghan someone?

Curious if anyone thinks Bush didn’t deny he may have declassified for Libby to help Libby cover his ass with Fitz because Libby knows the many illegal goings on at the WH…aren’t Bush & Cheney nervous he will spill the beans?

OT has everyone here read
wapo
“One striking feature of that decision — unremarked until now, in part because Fitzgerald did not mention it — is that the evidence Cheney and Libby selected to share with reporters had been disproved months before.”
very damning good read

I just don’t get this stuff. I mean, over these last few nights of dumpster-diving, I was struck by how casual it is, how “natural” it seems to these people to revel in the slaughter of a 5 year old “Pali” girl, to joke about how Iran “could use a good bombing”.

Then again, I’ve worked with guys like this, in the tool & die trade. They’d keep it in check around me, but it was always there. They’d say some pretty racist shit, but they would do so “humorously”, as if joking about a deeply held revulsion of an entire group of people somehow made it acceptable.

But it isn’t acceptable, it’s dangerous. And when it infects the popular discourse in the ways described in tbogg’s and Steve’s and all the others posts, all I can think to do is keep on diggin’ it out, put it on display for all to see and call it for what it is: a steaming pile of racist garbage.

And then I go read tbogg! Hey tbogg! You got my Koufax vote for Most Humorous blog. Too bad about that one, huh? (I think the vote was rigged by you-know-who for that Jesus guy.) But never mind that. Welcome to the other best blog on the internets, and thanks for a great post in a series of great posts.

AT&T loves Rush Limbaugh & let him crash the gate to Pebble Beach’s storied winter pro-am golf tournament (founded by the late Bing Crosby)some years back by inviting him to play. If that weren’t bad enough this year AT&T winked and nodded by letting Fox’s Sean Hannity set up shop on one of the verdant greens of Del Monte Forest…for an exclusive live television interview with Rush Limbaugh of course.

We don’t all don’t blame the Pebble Beach Company - their top gun(s)leadership weren’t even there - and the kinder, gentler souls who live here prefer to believe the PBC was simply snookered. Peter Uberroth was in Greece for the Olympics, Clint was mourning the loss of his beloved mother.

Who knows, maybe the boys will toss out AT&T by next year and make the deal they should have done in the first place & restore the once great event to its original Crosby Pro-Am Clambake with a kinder, less felonious sponsor.

But that’s just me - I want Tiger & other top tier players back next winter & don’t want to wait years for the U.S Open to return. I’m just saying if PBC doesn’t dump AT&T they’ve got a whole lot of explainin’ to do.

the tbogg ruleth.

that’s great that hillary got heckled on the war.

Here’s an article from the “traditional media” that is not full of shit:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....00916.html

It’s a few days behind the blogs, but, nevertheless, it reports the facts without the obligatory “fair & balanced” recanting of Karl Rove’s pathetic talking points.

I sent them an appreciative email:

http://projects.washingtonpost.....na+linzer/

Just as we’ve thrashed Deborah Howell & Poolboy VandeHei when they’ve deserved it (as in, every article they’ve ever written, or not written, as the case may have been), we should also commend those who buck the system and attempt to sneak some real news into the news.

Just watched Jarhead. Typical USMC movie. The opening shot was stolen right out of Full Metal Jacket.

With a 16-year-old son, this upcoming Iran debacle worries the hell out of me. A good friend whose husband has major Vietnam PSTD has been having his worst bouts in fifteen years.

Every politician who did anything to enable this Iraq obscenity should have fear of hecklement 24/7. And it’s not even heckling - it’s “please explain.”

from the Wa-Po:

They were not alone. Fitzgerald reported for the first time this week that “multiple officials in the White House”– not only Libby and White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove, who have previously been identified — discussed Plame’s CIA employment with reporters before and after publication of her name on July 14, 2003, in a column by Robert D. Novak. Fitzgerald said the grand jury has collected so much testimony and so many documents that “it is hard to conceive of what evidence there could be that would disprove the existence of White House efforts to ‘punish’ Wilson.”

Anyone that reads and believes this will see the bush BullShit!!

everhopeful: C-SPAN’s Washington Journal quotes from the Washington Times every single day, thereby trumpeting its “legitimacy†through the airwaves on a regular basis.

I’ve noticed this too. Why doesn’t someone call them on this bullshit?

An interesting illustration of how weird newspaper and magazine publishing dates and such are getting. They’re, well - dated.

Early Saturday afternoon the Washington Post downloaded a lot of Sunday articles on the web. I read one about the cancellation of “My Name is Rachel Corrie” by the New York Theater Workshop. So I wrote to the author and he wrote back - all a day before the thing goes out to newsstands, mailboxes and doorsteps.

This shit is basset-play for Tbogg.

He saves his seriously funny good stuff in a stash over at his own website. At the end of a long night of lurking, I stop by Dependable Renegade and then TBogg to top it off with sardonic chuckle or two before heading on to the land of nod.

Firedoglake first for the raw meat tartare, then watertiger and the Boggerman for the dessert of fools flambeed. And then the meds kick in.

just spent a few hours trying to figure out how to i.d. Boykin style military promotions - no luck but there’s some very weird shit out there not the least of which is Sen. George Allen’s recommendation on April 4 to have Boykin become the head of Special Ops command:

http://www.military.com/NewsCo.....64,00.html

just noting for future Geo Allen info and fear and trembling over what is coming … Boykin + SpecialOps is terrifying

Michael Savage is (Was) to MSNBC as Ben Domenech is (Was) to the WaPo. Oh and what’s this I hear about the WaPo’s new plan to hire two bloggers, and I wonder, will it be one left/centrist DLC-designee polite “liberal” alongside one batshit lunatic theocratic neocon survivalist all spiffed up in a nice clean “conservative” package? Just wondering.

Boids are startin to squawk here on the east coast even though it’s still dark, and I can’t sleep after a gig so here I squawk.

lean to the left lean to the right
stand up sit down fitz fitz fitz

just noting for future Geo Allen info and fear and trembling over what is coming … Boykin + SpecialOps is terrifying

This recent story really calls into question the extent to which the Air Force Academy in Colorado Springs has been taken over by evangelicals. -Uh the people who do the bombing of other countries - they’re in the Air Force, right?

Pretty creepy stuff indeed.

http://www.onlinejournal.com/a....._363.shtml

FWIW: Probably just a typo, but the later version of the WaPo Gelmann-Linzer story linked by Obsessed has an edit in graf 22. (No links. Just the rtfs I saved.)

Early version: ..but Tenet made public his intervention to keep uranium out of Bush’s speech four months earlier.

Later version: ..but Tenet made public his intervention to keep uranium out of Bush’s speech a few months earlier.

Splash - thanks for the link … there’s lots of stuff out there about “Dominionists” taking control of military chaplaincies - an article I got sidetracked by and cannot tell how reliable it is but looks well sourced:

http://www.axisoflogic.com/cgi.....;num=12647

T-bogg is the Steinbeck of bloggers. Clean logical writing that speaks to the heart of the matter, well done

Fraulein Anna, #38, that is one crazy, mesmerizing tone poem to the ether of decadence, drugs and decay. You doing some serious word trippin’.

Well, see all you fitzheads on the flip, as they say.

I could use some Norske before I crash. So I’ll make some up.

KEEP THE FAITH, WE’VE GOT ‘EM ON THE RUN!

OfT but topical:- all you didn’t want to know about “BunkerBuster” bombs, nuclear and non-nuclear -
http://www.globalresearch.ca/i.....cleId=1988

“In an utterly twisted logic, the nuclear bunker buster bomb is presented as an instrument of peace-making and regime change, which will enhance global security. It is intended to curb the dangers of WMD proliferation by “nonstate organizations (terrorist, criminal)” and “rogue states”. Pentagon propaganda has carefully distorted the nature of this bomb.

The B61-11 is casually described as causing an underground explosion without threatening “the surrounding civilian population”.

The Pentagon has blurred the distinction between conventional battlefield weapons and nuclear bombs. Already during the Clinton Administration, the Pentagon was calling for the use of the “nuclear” B61-11 bunker buster bomb, suggesting that because it was “underground”, there was no toxic radioactive fallout which could affect civilians.

The Bush administration has gone one step further in defining the use of tactical nuclear weapons, which are now part of America’s preemptive arsenal. Essentially they are described defensive weapons. Under the preemptive nuclear doctrine, they are specifically identified for use in conventional war theaters.

The Pentagon claims that the use of the B61-11 minimizes the risks of “collateral damage”. According to US. military planners, “potential adversaries” are hiding their WMDs in “fortified bunkers” below more than 100 feet of concrete. Yet test results indicate that the low yield B61-11 has never penetrated more than 20 feet below the ground (See also The Independent. 23 October 2003) :

“The earth-penetrating capability of the B61-11 is fairly limited. … Tests show it penetrates only 20 feet or so into dry earth when dropped from an altitude of 40,000 feet. … Any attempt to use it in an urban environment would result in massive civilian casualties. Even at the low end of its 0.3-300 kiloton yield range, the nuclear blast will simply blow out a huge crater of radioactive material, creating a lethal gamma-radiation field over a large area ” (Low-Yield Earth-Penetrating Nuclear Weapons by Robert W. Nelson,Federation of American Scientists, 2001 ).”

(snip)

“If it were to be launched against Iran, it would result in radioactive contamination over a large part of the Middle East - Central Asian region, resulting in tens of thousands of deaths, including US troops stationed in Iraq:

“The use of any nuclear weapon capable of destroying a buried target that is otherwise immune to conventional attack will necessarily produce enormous numbers of civilian casualties. No earth-burrowing missile can penetrate deep enough into the earth to contain an explosion with a nuclear yield [of a low yield B61-11] even as small as 1 percent of the 15 kiloton Hiroshima weapon. The explosion simply blows out a massive crater of radioactive dirt, which rains down on the local region with an especially intense and deadly fallout.”(Low-Yield Earth-Penetrating Nuclear Weapons, by Robert W. Nelson, op cit )”

oh Griffon, thanks for that - :)

[passing out into bed]

You’re welcome, Sharkbabe (I think). All those terms like “great article” kinda read rather weird when talking about this stuff.
The thing that struck me is the “newspeak” that’s put about concerning war and these civilian friendly nukes have to take the cake. Such Evil.

To more mundane stuff (in comparison), I hope the gig went well. I enjoy reading your comments.

Thanks to TBogg.

Read a bit this am, just the last post’s comments: the Boykin possibility and Iran planis just more proof that the leaders of our county are not just hateful and cruel, they are delusional and ill. To consider risking the future health of the planet and causing the certain death of thousands of innocents, these maniacs would use nukes as simply as stamping thier feet because they can’t control themselves. This has to be stopped, I can’t imagine how Congress can have an Easter break with this possibility on the horizon.

I am ashamed to be an American. Bush supporters are without humanity.

Could you guys document some of the talk this am? Love to hear what Zinni, Kerry, Joe Wilson have to say. We are painfully busy and I will be working late for sure. No news for me today, I’m having withdrawal.

Be good to yourselves today.

zen

back at ya Griffon. and we do have to look at this insanity in all its starkness.

I know ‘obsessed’ beat me to this in post 31 above, but:

Gellman!

Great Fitz-Libby story.

Bart Gellman doesn’t do stenography. Gellman is a reporter. I’ve been a fan of his ever since this 2003 story of his completely undermined the claim that this war was about WMDs.

thingwarbler says:
April 8th, 2006 at 10:44 pm

– Tbogg, you rule, as always. Thx for showing up here at the sorority.

Hey Tbogg - just between you and me, there’s some guys here who’ve snuck into the sorority - keep it quiet, ok?

Greetings and salutations to the lovely and lithe Mrs. Tbogg as well.

help - when is joe wilson on?

wakey-wakey

new thread - w/ the Wilson info…

Kathryn — Joe Wilson is on This Week on ABC. You’ll need to check your local listings to see what time it will be on in your area. HTH!

Oh man, TBogg — that photo is priceless. And Brit? Erm…not so much. Great work.

Speaking of photos. The photograph of the Red-man chewing yahoos is one of Life’s best . It deserves at least credit. Being lawyers I would think you would understand a little a bit about copyright infringement. Tell me I wrong , please.Or do you guys support the new Orphan laws? You know, well we tried to find the creator but our intern smoked too much BC bud. try harder.

Here it took me exactly the time between my last comments to find who was the creator. Try harder you Lazy lima Beans. http://www.viscom.ohiou.edu/mo.....Moore.html

Tbogg…don’t know if you are reading comments but wanted to let you know that you have made the big time…
I’m in Beijing…and China has you blocked.

TBOGG: Why did Neil Bush go on the World Tour with the Moonie guy? Seems he’s always around these guys…..

TBogg, always with le mot juste…’temps who throw bombs’ is PRICELESS! Great job, as always, hope the junior basset has lost the green gills

Cheers,

GW