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		<title>By: Thor Likes Pizza</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-61125</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor Likes Pizza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2006 03:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;What a fucking surprise.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The waWhorePo defends the jackals.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cocktail weenies? More like lapdog food……&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fucking surprise.</p>
<p>The waWhorePo defends the jackals.</p>
<p>Cocktail weenies? More like lapdog food……</p>
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		<title>By: orionATL</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60425</link>
		<dc:creator>orionATL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 16:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;wrong question.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the question to ask isn’t&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;who gets the cocktail weenies?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;but&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;who is a cocktail weenie of a reporter?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i have two nominees in mind&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;j. vanderhei&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;and&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;j.smith.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;p.s.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;on not being able to post–&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;i notice that when i type a comment at fdl it often takes a looooong, looooong time for the letters i have just typed to appear within the writing “box” on fdl.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;this does not happen at any other site.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;is it possible for  a poster who sees a blank “box” after hitting” post”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that his comment is on the way but taking a looong time to show up at the bottom of the comments page?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wrong question.</p>
<p>the question to ask isn’t</p>
<p>who gets the cocktail weenies?</p>
<p>but</p>
<p>who is a cocktail weenie of a reporter?</p>
<p>i have two nominees in mind</p>
<p>j. vanderhei</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>j.smith.</p>
<p>p.s.</p>
<p>on not being able to post–</p>
<p>i notice that when i type a comment at fdl it often takes a looooong, looooong time for the letters i have just typed to appear within the writing “box” on fdl.</p>
<p>this does not happen at any other site.</p>
<p>is it possible for  a poster who sees a blank “box” after hitting” post”</p>
<p>that his comment is on the way but taking a looong time to show up at the bottom of the comments page?</p>
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		<title>By: fran</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60256</link>
		<dc:creator>fran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 14:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It’s sometimes tough being an average Joe (or Fran)reading your stuff Jane.I’m a Democrat and Liberal and Veteran but half the time I don’t know what&lt;br /&gt;
the hell your talking about.Like “Strobel and the wapo have danced before.” I guess wapo stands for the Washington Post&lt;br /&gt;
 I’m sure your legion of fans think this is kind of talk is cute but it’s one of the reasons that Dubya has connected for so long.&lt;br /&gt;
 I’m not asking you to dumbdown but just give&lt;br /&gt;
plain English~&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s sometimes tough being an average Joe (or Fran)reading your stuff Jane.I’m a Democrat and Liberal and Veteran but half the time I don’t know what<br />
the hell your talking about.Like “Strobel and the wapo have danced before.” I guess wapo stands for the Washington Post<br />
 I’m sure your legion of fans think this is kind of talk is cute but it’s one of the reasons that Dubya has connected for so long.<br />
 I’m not asking you to dumbdown but just give<br />
plain English~</p>
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		<title>By: me to me</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60233</link>
		<dc:creator>me to me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this is the very problem boys and girls, all corporate media has to do is “poo poo” any concerns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;bing&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;joe public thinks it’s a nothing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;the media, the marketing, the presentation, these are the deficits of the democratic party&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is the very problem boys and girls, all corporate media has to do is “poo poo” any concerns.</p>
<p>bing</p>
<p>joe public thinks it’s a nothing.</p>
<p>the media, the marketing, the presentation, these are the deficits of the democratic party</p>
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		<title>By: ecoast</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60231</link>
		<dc:creator>ecoast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 13:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, today’s Wapo story advanced the ball a bit.  Buried deep in the story is this new snippet:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Libby also leaked information from the National Intelligence Estimate to Bob Woodward of The Washington Post prior to the date that the White House said it was officially declassified. In sworn testimony, Woodward told Fitzgerald that on June 27, 2003 — 11 days before the Libby-Miller conversation — Libby told him about the CIA estimate and an Iraqi effort to obtain “yellowcake” uranium in Africa, according to a statement Woodward released on Nov. 14, 2005.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In an interview, Woodward said his notes, which were not released publicly but were shown to Fitzgerald, included Libby using the word “vigorous” to describe the Iraqi effort. Libby used similar language when he provided the NIE information Bush declassified to Miller at their July 8, 2003, meeting, according to Fitzgerald’s filing.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The precise status of the information at the time Libby provided it to Woodward is unclear because of conflicting accounts of the declassification process provided by Libby and McClellan. Fitzgerald’s court filing does not provide the date when Bush and Cheney — who have both been interviewed by the special prosecutor — said they authorized Libby’s disclosures.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
WH seems to be saying that that they “pre-disclosed” the info to NYT because it was going to be officially declassified a week later anyway.  Now, this puts the leak about 20 days before the July 18 official declassification date.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Also, what is interesting to me that they selected Woodward and Miller to leak this.&lt;br /&gt;
But anyone with street sense could have told them that those two wouldn’t or couldn’t publish those stories. Woodward would have - and has - kept it for his book and by that time, Miller was asked to “stand in the corner”&lt;br /&gt;
by NYT editors because of her WMD reporting and at least some NYT editors were questioning themselves.  So WH had to go to the B-team guy Novak, who was ready and willing to oblige.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, today’s Wapo story advanced the ball a bit.  Buried deep in the story is this new snippet:<br />
<i><br />
Libby also leaked information from the National Intelligence Estimate to Bob Woodward of The Washington Post prior to the date that the White House said it was officially declassified. In sworn testimony, Woodward told Fitzgerald that on June 27, 2003 — 11 days before the Libby-Miller conversation — Libby told him about the CIA estimate and an Iraqi effort to obtain “yellowcake” uranium in Africa, according to a statement Woodward released on Nov. 14, 2005.</i></p>
<p>In an interview, Woodward said his notes, which were not released publicly but were shown to Fitzgerald, included Libby using the word “vigorous” to describe the Iraqi effort. Libby used similar language when he provided the NIE information Bush declassified to Miller at their July 8, 2003, meeting, according to Fitzgerald’s filing.</p>
<p>The precise status of the information at the time Libby provided it to Woodward is unclear because of conflicting accounts of the declassification process provided by Libby and McClellan. Fitzgerald’s court filing does not provide the date when Bush and Cheney — who have both been interviewed by the special prosecutor — said they authorized Libby’s disclosures.</p>
<p>WH seems to be saying that that they “pre-disclosed” the info to NYT because it was going to be officially declassified a week later anyway.  Now, this puts the leak about 20 days before the July 18 official declassification date.</p>
<p>Also, what is interesting to me that they selected Woodward and Miller to leak this.<br />
But anyone with street sense could have told them that those two wouldn’t or couldn’t publish those stories. Woodward would have &#8211; and has &#8211; kept it for his book and by that time, Miller was asked to “stand in the corner”<br />
by NYT editors because of her WMD reporting and at least some NYT editors were questioning themselves.  So WH had to go to the B-team guy Novak, who was ready and willing to oblige.</p>
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		<title>By: The Shark</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60216</link>
		<dc:creator>The Shark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 11:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;its a whole new eco-system out here firedoglake/huff/sharkforum.org…as things right themselves, lets be sure to remember how  and why our foes have fallen and are continuing to do so and keep in mind, The Great White Shark does not hunt the guppy, nor does it stalk the minnow.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its a whole new eco-system out here firedoglake/huff/sharkforum.org…as things right themselves, lets be sure to remember how  and why our foes have fallen and are continuing to do so and keep in mind, The Great White Shark does not hunt the guppy, nor does it stalk the minnow.</p>
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		<title>By: radlib1</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60175</link>
		<dc:creator>radlib1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 08:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Open Letter to the Editors of the Washington Post –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who better than the once fiercely honorable, now sadly neutered Washington Post to lick the fingers and the posteriors of the Bush Administration and its criminally indicted minions?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Disclosures Are Called Unrelated To Plame Case&lt;br /&gt;
 Libbyâ€™s Lawyer Rebuts Special Prosecutorâ€™s Filing&lt;br /&gt;
 By R. Jeffrey Smith and Jim VandeHei&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“The revelation of former White House official I. Lewis “Scooter” Libbyâ€™s involvement in authorized disclosures of sensitive intelligence information does not undermine Libbyâ€™s contention that he innocently forgot about conversations he may have had with reporters regarding covert CIA operative Valerie Plame, Libbyâ€™s attorney said yesterday.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Where once there were watchdogs, now there are lapdogs.&lt;br /&gt;
ï¿¼&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Open Letter to the Editors of the Washington Post –</p>
<p>Who better than the once fiercely honorable, now sadly neutered Washington Post to lick the fingers and the posteriors of the Bush Administration and its criminally indicted minions?</p>
<p>Disclosures Are Called Unrelated To Plame Case<br />
 Libbyâ€™s Lawyer Rebuts Special Prosecutorâ€™s Filing<br />
 By R. Jeffrey Smith and Jim VandeHei</p>
<p>“The revelation of former White House official I. Lewis “Scooter” Libbyâ€™s involvement in authorized disclosures of sensitive intelligence information does not undermine Libbyâ€™s contention that he innocently forgot about conversations he may have had with reporters regarding covert CIA operative Valerie Plame, Libbyâ€™s attorney said yesterday.”</p>
<p>Where once there were watchdogs, now there are lapdogs.<br />
ï¿¼</p>
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		<title>By: mz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60153</link>
		<dc:creator>mz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 07:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The Washington Post published a fluff piece on Dobson that Ben Domenech wrote as a freelance writer… at the age of 16!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I went looking for it after reading a user’s comment on The Post’s blog:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blog.washingtonpost.com/washpostblog/2006/04/news_search_launch.html#comments&quot;&gt;http://blog.washingtonpost.com.....l#comments&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;After a bit of Google work, turns out that this was already mentioned in some comments at DailyKos.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I think it deserves a bit more attention because it raises so many questions about cronyism among the cocktail weenie set in D.C. and about editorial integrity at the Post.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Washington Post&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;April 19, 1998, Sunday, Final Edition&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SECTION: OUTLOOK; Pg. C02&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LENGTH: 1225 words&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;HEADLINE: Dobson’s Choice; Why the Conservative Outsider’s Agenda Worries GOP Leaders&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BYLINE: Benjamin Domenech&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;BODY:&lt;br /&gt;
There is an emerging force within the Republican Party, a man who, as he attempts to alter the party’s entire focus, has managed to escape the attention of many inside the Beltway. His strength is drawn from social conservative activists. His cause is abortion. And his words these days — about unkept promises — are making Republican leaders in Congress extremely nervous.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The man is James Dobson.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(…)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Benjamin Domenech is a freelance writer whose work has appeared in the American Conservative and Human Events.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Washington Post published a fluff piece on Dobson that Ben Domenech wrote as a freelance writer… at the age of 16!!</p>
<p>I went looking for it after reading a user’s comment on The Post’s blog:</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/washpostblog/2006/04/news_search_launch.html#comments">http://blog.washingtonpost.com&#8230;..l#comments</a></p>
<p>After a bit of Google work, turns out that this was already mentioned in some comments at DailyKos.</p>
<p>But I think it deserves a bit more attention because it raises so many questions about cronyism among the cocktail weenie set in D.C. and about editorial integrity at the Post.</p>
<p>The Washington Post</p>
<p>April 19, 1998, Sunday, Final Edition</p>
<p>SECTION: OUTLOOK; Pg. C02</p>
<p>LENGTH: 1225 words</p>
<p>HEADLINE: Dobson’s Choice; Why the Conservative Outsider’s Agenda Worries GOP Leaders</p>
<p>BYLINE: Benjamin Domenech</p>
<p>BODY:<br />
There is an emerging force within the Republican Party, a man who, as he attempts to alter the party’s entire focus, has managed to escape the attention of many inside the Beltway. His strength is drawn from social conservative activists. His cause is abortion. And his words these days — about unkept promises — are making Republican leaders in Congress extremely nervous.</p>
<p>The man is James Dobson.</p>
<p>(…)</p>
<p>Benjamin Domenech is a freelance writer whose work has appeared in the American Conservative and Human Events.</p>
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		<title>By: mdnetter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60137</link>
		<dc:creator>mdnetter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Today on Nettertainment a lot of questions about unencumbered Presidential authority, &lt;a href=&quot;http://nettertainment.blogspot.com/2006/04/leaktaker.html&quot;&gt; Leaktaker&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today on Nettertainment a lot of questions about unencumbered Presidential authority, <a href="http://nettertainment.blogspot.com/2006/04/leaktaker.html"> Leaktaker</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: patience</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/07/who-will-get-the-cocktail-weenies/#comment-60124</link>
		<dc:creator>patience</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 06:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Who do these idiots in the media think they are f-ning kidding? It’s damn hard to find anyone at all that doesn’t understand the implications of Bush authorizing Libby’s leak. Outside of the right wing machine and their immediate families, there are literally no people who do not understand what is going on. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Given this, why bother with the obfuscation? What the hell does the Post think it’s doing? Brit Hume’s delusional take down of the ticker title shows just how out of touch the cocktail weenie crowd is with America. Do the cokehead producers at Fox even in their wildest delusions imagine that the current Orwelien pipe dream extends beyond the walls of their own offices?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Honestly, Bagdad Bob is looking like a pro compared to the desperate amateur hour on display at the Post and at Fox.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Do they not think that after the president goes down later this year that the angry backlash won’t be focused laser like on the media enablers? Does Woodward really think because he and the Bushes are in the same social club that the rest of the world is going to give him a pass for trying to paper over this generations most obvious political scandal? Club loyalty is only as good as the credibility that extends beyond it, and Bush Jr. is burning more and more of that just to keep treading water. Who will ever take Woodward seriously again? Who will ever take anyone in the social club seriously again? Thousands of lives spent establishing a reputation only to burn it away to keep Dick Cheney’s smugness intact? Is that what you all signed up for?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wake up and smell the coffee people. The scandals are plentiful and nearly bottomless at this point. It’s low hanging fruit. Really. How do the editors of the Post look themselves in the eye in the morning and print garbage like the above Vandehei article. How do the club members imagine the bill will ever be paid, even to them?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Note to the Punditocracy: YOU LOST. Libby’s filing clearly shows the hand of conspiracy at work. Pack up the ball and go home before you cause yourselves permanent damage. Unlike your media, the internet has a memory and the more you try to cover-up the more damning will be your condemnation when the house implodes. You can’t hide your mistakes behind a wall of denial and delusion any longer. The experiment in Monarchy has failed. By continuing beyond this point, you are forcing the collective, as digby coined it “to stake you once and for all”.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who do these idiots in the media think they are f-ning kidding? It’s damn hard to find anyone at all that doesn’t understand the implications of Bush authorizing Libby’s leak. Outside of the right wing machine and their immediate families, there are literally no people who do not understand what is going on. </p>
<p>Given this, why bother with the obfuscation? What the hell does the Post think it’s doing? Brit Hume’s delusional take down of the ticker title shows just how out of touch the cocktail weenie crowd is with America. Do the cokehead producers at Fox even in their wildest delusions imagine that the current Orwelien pipe dream extends beyond the walls of their own offices?</p>
<p>Honestly, Bagdad Bob is looking like a pro compared to the desperate amateur hour on display at the Post and at Fox.</p>
<p>Do they not think that after the president goes down later this year that the angry backlash won’t be focused laser like on the media enablers? Does Woodward really think because he and the Bushes are in the same social club that the rest of the world is going to give him a pass for trying to paper over this generations most obvious political scandal? Club loyalty is only as good as the credibility that extends beyond it, and Bush Jr. is burning more and more of that just to keep treading water. Who will ever take Woodward seriously again? Who will ever take anyone in the social club seriously again? Thousands of lives spent establishing a reputation only to burn it away to keep Dick Cheney’s smugness intact? Is that what you all signed up for?</p>
<p>Wake up and smell the coffee people. The scandals are plentiful and nearly bottomless at this point. It’s low hanging fruit. Really. How do the editors of the Post look themselves in the eye in the morning and print garbage like the above Vandehei article. How do the club members imagine the bill will ever be paid, even to them?</p>
<p>Note to the Punditocracy: YOU LOST. Libby’s filing clearly shows the hand of conspiracy at work. Pack up the ball and go home before you cause yourselves permanent damage. Unlike your media, the internet has a memory and the more you try to cover-up the more damning will be your condemnation when the house implodes. You can’t hide your mistakes behind a wall of denial and delusion any longer. The experiment in Monarchy has failed. By continuing beyond this point, you are forcing the collective, as digby coined it “to stake you once and for all”.</p>
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