Comments on: The Morning After http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 05:56:23 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: egregious http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-58445 egregious Fri, 07 Apr 2006 00:39:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-58445 <p>178 “Ed” Lamont??</p> 178 “Ed” Lamont??

]]> By: egregious http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57957 egregious Thu, 06 Apr 2006 19:44:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57957 <p>I think ‘liberal realist’ is a dem staffer who is getting sick of all the angry emails and letters pouring in from constituents.</p> I think ‘liberal realist’ is a dem staffer who is getting sick of all the angry emails and letters pouring in from constituents.

]]> By: liberal realist http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57674 liberal realist Thu, 06 Apr 2006 17:03:18 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57674 <p>RedDan </p> <p>“Consider me skeptical. Tone is same, outlook is similar, view of liberal blogosphere appears in line with tone and viewpoint of liberalrealist blogspot.</p> <p>I am still looking…be warned”</p> <p>Consider me a bitch! The tone is NOT the same, the gender is not the same. You’re a pompous ass. I’m not shaking in my boots.</p> RedDan

“Consider me skeptical. Tone is same, outlook is similar, view of liberal blogosphere appears in line with tone and viewpoint of liberalrealist blogspot.

I am still looking…be warned”

Consider me a bitch! The tone is NOT the same, the gender is not the same. You’re a pompous ass. I’m not shaking in my boots.

]]> By: Ché Pasa http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57549 Ché Pasa Thu, 06 Apr 2006 16:12:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57549 <p>Nancy’s thing reads like a floor speech she made to an empty hall. Remember when Newt used to do that? Only his 2am speeches were covered on C-Span and then they were the talk of the town for days afterwards.</p> <p>Nancy gets up and says something in the House, and everyone throws tomatoes at her, at least virtual tomatoes.</p> <p>Can’t win for losing. </p> <p>Nature of power, innit?</p> Nancy’s thing reads like a floor speech she made to an empty hall. Remember when Newt used to do that? Only his 2am speeches were covered on C-Span and then they were the talk of the town for days afterwards.

Nancy gets up and says something in the House, and everyone throws tomatoes at her, at least virtual tomatoes.

Can’t win for losing.

Nature of power, innit?

]]> By: Uh… Clem. http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57511 Uh… Clem. Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:52:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57511 <p>“Also try to put your self in Nancy’s shoes. She has been briefed on the NSA program,s? and cannot talk about to anyone even if it wreaks of Presidential abuse. I would rather not know. As an elected offical how would proceed to counter the GOP on this issue? Remember Russ Feingold does not know what she knows.Thanks”</p> <p>Evidently Russ Feingold knows something that Pelosi SHOULD know… that is, there is no pending investigation to “wait for the results of”. The Republicans made sure to effectively kill that as quickly as they could. </p> <p>Yes, I realize that the Beltway crowd is banking on this “Trust us, it’s a good idea to cave on this and hang Feingold out to dry, we just can’t tell you why,” scheme to distract us and keep us off their backs so they can get back to sitting on their thumbs with a clear conscience, but once again it assumes that none of us are bright enough to follow the bouncing ball, and that we’ll just forget that there is no rea, meaningful investigation of the warrantless wiretapping program pending, or that Bush has proudly and repeatedly admitted that he broke the law.</p> <p>I think “poor Nancy” and her buddies need to put themselves in OUR shoes for a change.</p> “Also try to put your self in Nancy’s shoes. She has been briefed on the NSA program,s? and cannot talk about to anyone even if it wreaks of Presidential abuse. I would rather not know. As an elected offical how would proceed to counter the GOP on this issue? Remember Russ Feingold does not know what she knows.Thanks”

Evidently Russ Feingold knows something that Pelosi SHOULD know… that is, there is no pending investigation to “wait for the results of”. The Republicans made sure to effectively kill that as quickly as they could.

Yes, I realize that the Beltway crowd is banking on this “Trust us, it’s a good idea to cave on this and hang Feingold out to dry, we just can’t tell you why,” scheme to distract us and keep us off their backs so they can get back to sitting on their thumbs with a clear conscience, but once again it assumes that none of us are bright enough to follow the bouncing ball, and that we’ll just forget that there is no rea, meaningful investigation of the warrantless wiretapping program pending, or that Bush has proudly and repeatedly admitted that he broke the law.

I think “poor Nancy” and her buddies need to put themselves in OUR shoes for a change.

]]> By: Peter Jackson http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57498 Peter Jackson Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:43:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57498 <p>The other point they are missing about blogging, as a consumer of blogs, is that political blogs are filling a vacuum in progressive ideas and the inspirational feelings that come from such exchange of ideas. In addition, the average citizen has not been able to be involved at all. If others don’t like it, as they said, they can get out here and see if, as a consumer you can move me. I doubt it, but its great to see that you are being moved by the netblog world. Firedoglake (and the like) speaks my language get used to it traditional political operatives.</p> The other point they are missing about blogging, as a consumer of blogs, is that political blogs are filling a vacuum in progressive ideas and the inspirational feelings that come from such exchange of ideas. In addition, the average citizen has not been able to be involved at all. If others don’t like it, as they said, they can get out here and see if, as a consumer you can move me. I doubt it, but its great to see that you are being moved by the netblog world. Firedoglake (and the like) speaks my language get used to it traditional political operatives.

]]> By: Mac in Colo http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57429 Mac in Colo Thu, 06 Apr 2006 15:01:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57429 <p>“uncontrollable and uncooperative and, one assumes, bad for the party.”</p> <p>Duuuhh! People thinking for themselves, and speaking their mind, instead of lettting plutocrats speak for them, has been bad for behavior control since, at least the Storming of the Bastille.</p> <p>Why do you think China regulates the internet with Microsoft and other mega corps in fawn?</p> <p>Nancy & her plutocrats need corporate money… just one more time.. and maybe, another.. well perhaps another..</p> <p>Can’t get it if the peonage is uncontrolled</p> “uncontrollable and uncooperative and, one assumes, bad for the party.”

Duuuhh! People thinking for themselves, and speaking their mind, instead of lettting plutocrats speak for them, has been bad for behavior control since, at least the Storming of the Bastille.

Why do you think China regulates the internet with Microsoft and other mega corps in fawn?

Nancy & her plutocrats need corporate money… just one more time.. and maybe, another.. well perhaps another..

Can’t get it if the peonage is uncontrolled

]]> By: mpls joe http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57390 mpls joe Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:37:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57390 <p>Jane…I LOVE YOU!</p> Jane…I LOVE YOU!

]]> By: brendan http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57362 brendan Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:16:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57362 <p>No, Bowers means the democrats. I know Albert Yee from Philadelphia Drinkign liberally, and Bowers too.</p> <p>Nope: this is the DEMS doing this, and the reason is that in pHiladelphia, the democrats are as entrenched and corrupt as republicans are in other states. We just saw the disgraced councilman Rick Mariano (D) resign because got popped for taking bribes, and not only does he expect a paycheck until he’s actually in the hoosegow, no one on City Council actually thinks he should step down.</p> <p>And then there’s the feud running between Bob Brady and John Dougherty, both of who want to be the next mayor.</p> <p>They are afraid of the insurgent dems in Philadelphia, and they are out to stopt he progressive movement, as it interferes with the machine they’ve so carefully set up.</p> <p>Not that the PA GOP is any better: racist scumbags who arew trying to destroy Philadelphia.</p> No, Bowers means the democrats. I know Albert Yee from Philadelphia Drinkign liberally, and Bowers too.

Nope: this is the DEMS doing this, and the reason is that in pHiladelphia, the democrats are as entrenched and corrupt as republicans are in other states. We just saw the disgraced councilman Rick Mariano (D) resign because got popped for taking bribes, and not only does he expect a paycheck until he’s actually in the hoosegow, no one on City Council actually thinks he should step down.

And then there’s the feud running between Bob Brady and John Dougherty, both of who want to be the next mayor.

They are afraid of the insurgent dems in Philadelphia, and they are out to stopt he progressive movement, as it interferes with the machine they’ve so carefully set up.

Not that the PA GOP is any better: racist scumbags who arew trying to destroy Philadelphia.

]]> By: Praedor Atrebates http://firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57360 Praedor Atrebates Thu, 06 Apr 2006 14:14:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/04/05/the-morning-after/#comment-57360 <p><i>IF Pelosi reads through (or a savvy, smart staffer reads through) that comment thread and the other diaries, they could pick up some really good material, advice, and constructive criticisms.</i></p> <p>Therein lies the rub. She will NOT read through the comments. She wont even visit the site. I have some doubt as to whether she actually wrote for the blog at all. More than likely, she had a staffer who may be a wee bit more web-savvy than she is (almost impossible <i>not</i> to be more savvy on this than almost ANY rep or senator) toss something together that fit with her re-election talking points and toss it out there. </p> <p>DailyKos, having the largest target audience was a no brainer. The idiot staffer, being just savvy enough to know where to post but no savvy enough to REALLY GET IT, thought it would lead to accolades and love, fawning and adoration just because. They STILL don’t understand “the situation on the ground.” Soundbites don’t work with us. They piss us off. TRUTH works. REALITY works. HONESTY works. Talking points and platitudes are ignored and the provider of same is to be gored.</p> <p>Until Pelosi, Kerry, Schumer, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc get with the real program, accept the new reality, then they will NOT be welcomed or supported. I gotta tell you, if I were in any of their districts or states I would NOT vote for them in the fall. The Congress, both houses, is infested with fungus that is anathema to life in the United States. It needs to be cleaned out, top to bottom, and treated with a strong bleach solution to boot. </p> <p>They have to win me back (and hopefully most of the rest of you too) rather than <i>yet again</i> getting to take us for granted. It must end! We must NOT allow them to take us for granted. I will NOT go along with their fantasy that I’ll vote for them no matter what because, “where else will you go?”. I tell you what, you put it like that and I’ll tell you where I will go: NOT to the polls…OR I will vote for other than Dem. Get it? No more taking for granted anyone or anything. I’ve already cut off, entirely, my portion of the money pipe. Money is the ONLY thing they understand.</p> IF Pelosi reads through (or a savvy, smart staffer reads through) that comment thread and the other diaries, they could pick up some really good material, advice, and constructive criticisms.

Therein lies the rub. She will NOT read through the comments. She wont even visit the site. I have some doubt as to whether she actually wrote for the blog at all. More than likely, she had a staffer who may be a wee bit more web-savvy than she is (almost impossible not to be more savvy on this than almost ANY rep or senator) toss something together that fit with her re-election talking points and toss it out there.

DailyKos, having the largest target audience was a no brainer. The idiot staffer, being just savvy enough to know where to post but no savvy enough to REALLY GET IT, thought it would lead to accolades and love, fawning and adoration just because. They STILL don’t understand “the situation on the ground.” Soundbites don’t work with us. They piss us off. TRUTH works. REALITY works. HONESTY works. Talking points and platitudes are ignored and the provider of same is to be gored.

Until Pelosi, Kerry, Schumer, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc get with the real program, accept the new reality, then they will NOT be welcomed or supported. I gotta tell you, if I were in any of their districts or states I would NOT vote for them in the fall. The Congress, both houses, is infested with fungus that is anathema to life in the United States. It needs to be cleaned out, top to bottom, and treated with a strong bleach solution to boot.

They have to win me back (and hopefully most of the rest of you too) rather than yet again getting to take us for granted. It must end! We must NOT allow them to take us for granted. I will NOT go along with their fantasy that I’ll vote for them no matter what because, “where else will you go?”. I tell you what, you put it like that and I’ll tell you where I will go: NOT to the polls…OR I will vote for other than Dem. Get it? No more taking for granted anyone or anything. I’ve already cut off, entirely, my portion of the money pipe. Money is the ONLY thing they understand.

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