A column from the Connecticut Post. I swear I didn’t write this:
Dear Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn.:
How time flies when you’re having as much fun as you guys do down there in Cherry Blossomville. Right?
I’ll bet it seems like yesterday you were running for re-election to your third U.S. Senate term representing this great state. Remember how you stood at the top of the escalator in that big Milford mall doling out handshakes and smiles to each and every shopper rising toward JC Penney’s? No? Well, take it from me, you did.
Now here you go again: out to the malls and diners in ought 6 to stump for another six.
Just so you’ll know, more than a few Connecticut voters (no, not the worshippers who fawn over you at the diner meet ‘n’ greets) have been wondering whether you’ll run as a Democrat or Republican this time around.
Now don’t get all defensive, Joe. Even you have to admit that some of your actions over the last six years were decidedly not "capital D" Democratic.
There was the whole censorship thing, and you didn’t exactly tow the party line when you came out for putting the tube back into Terri Schiavo.
But it was your spirited defense of Don Rumsfeld the other day on the treatment of terrorist suspects detained by the US that really stirred the pot.
Adm. Albert Church told your Senate Armed Services Committee that he’d found 70 solid cases of abuse by U.S. personnel against suspected terrorist detainees held in Iraq, Afghanistan, Guantanamo Bay, and God knows where else.
In response, you toadied up to Rummy, who seems to think that making somebody stand up for 48 hours is not torture. You pointed out that since there are more than 50,000 suspected terrorists held in those places, 70 cases means only one-tenth of one percent of the detainees allegedly has been abused.
Am I wrong, or shouldn’t one case of abuse be something to be very ashamed of?
Next you made some kind of wishy-washy remark about how abuse charges have to be put into "the proper perspective."
I don’t know, but since abuse is sometimes code for torture, it’s hard to find a perspective that’s not plain ugly.
It’s moments like that Rumsfeld defense that causes certain unnamed powerful world leaders to put a lip-lock on you in front of a roomful of your peers.
On the off chance you don’t run, or, God forbid, lose the election, at least you’ll have your wife Hadassah’s check to fall back on. That lobbying — I mean public relations — job she got for the big pharmaceutical companies can’t exactly pay chump change.
Still, you’re going to have to be careful how you vote on bills for things like allowing people to buy the cheap drugs from Canada, and getting the Food & Drug Administration to do a better job of checking out bogus remedies like Vioxx before putting them in the stores.
Can you spell r-e-c-u-s-e?
One way to look at your somewhat un-Democratic behavior of late is to trot out that old line about you not being a slave to the party line.
But if you check the congressional report cards the special interest groups compile based on senators’ and representatives’ voting records, that line sags. You emerge a mild liberal. Or at least a solid middle-of-the-road Demo.
According to Project Vote Smart, a Web site that compiles the special interest groups’ ratings, over the last two years, conservative organizations say you voted their way a mere 11.5 percent (average) of the time. Meanwhile, the liberal special interest groups say you voted their way an average of 65 percent of the time.
The environmentalists love, well, like you. The Sierra Club gave you a 100 percent for 2004 votes.
The gun folks hate, well, dislike you. The NRA gave you a goose egg for last year’s votes.
And you’re aces with the health special interest groups, although this could be a problem with the Hadassah thing.
Anyway, Senator, maybe your votes in the next year will clear up your status. As far as I know that mall escalator is still running — up and down.
Kudos to columnist Charles Walsh. I find his tone to be both online-friendly and Lieberman-appropriate.
(graphic courtesy Jesus’ General)
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I knew it was time.
Thank you Jane– saw it earlier and loved it! Fitz and Feingold!
Fitz!
Delay & Matthews
sitting in a tree
K-I-S-S-I-N-G-
Minor, very technical detail – it’s called “toe” the line, not “tow” the line. When the troops line up, their toes are all aligned, hence, they “toe” the line.
I’ll go back and read the rest of this very good article now.
OT – Is is possible to donate to FDL by check?
the only nazis we allow in here are us spellingnazis and grammarnazis. Otherwise, Nurenberg rules !
I once saw an argument that went on for weeks on “toe the line” vs “tow the line”- each side marshalled copious evidence- and the issue was never resolved.
The “toe the line” people refer to lining up in a neat row.
The “tow the line” people discuss pulling as a team on the same rope (line). Don’t know how it could be resolved.
–this is from an online dictionary. Thought it might be useful for discussions of Lieberman and Matthews. I think Liberman is a toady, but not sure whether Matthews is more sycophant or more parasite. If anymore DeLay interviews, then Matthews definitely leech in my book.
parasite
One entry found for parasite.
Main Entry: par·a·site
Pronunciation: ‘par-&-”sIt
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle French, from Latin parasitus, from Greek parasitos, from para- + sitos grain, food
1 : a person who exploits the hospitality of the rich and earns welcome by flattery
2 : an organism living in, with, or on another organism in parasitism
3 : something that resembles a biological parasite in dependence on something else for existence or support without making a useful or adequate return
- par·a·sit·ic /”par-&-’si-tik/ also par·a·sit·i·cal /-ti-k&l/ adjective
- par·a·sit·i·cal·ly /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb
synonyms PARASITE, SYCOPHANT, TOADY, LEECH, SPONGE mean a usually obsequious flatterer or self-seeker. PARASITE applies to one who clings to a person of wealth, power, or influence or is useless to society (a jet-setter with an entourage of parasites). SYCOPHANT adds to this a strong suggestion of fawning, flattery, or adulation (a powerful prince surrounded by sycophants). TOADY emphasizes the servility and snobbery of the self-seeker (cultivated leaders of society and became their toady). LEECH stresses persistence in clinging to or bleeding another for one’s own advantage (a leech living off his family and friends). SPONGE stresses the parasitic laziness, dependence, and opportunism of the cadger (a shiftless sponge, always looking for a handout).
Well, I refuse to read any further until SOMEONE solves the toe/tow problem. I’m gonna hold my breath. Okay?
I believe “toe the line†has literary history – “tow the line” is likely the artifact of the Age of the Spellchecker and the Homonym Conumdrum…
In the ‘categories’ section of the new blog format, I love how the ‘Uncategorized’ sub-heading has over 1200 items yet there is category containing a single entry reserved for ‘Ramesh and the Party of Death.’ Lmao
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Zogby on the surprising results of his recent polling in Virginia:
Virginia Senator George Allen continues to hold a solid lead over his potential Democratic challengers, but his opponents are in the ballpark in a state that is showing signs of Democratic strength, a new Wall Street Journal/Zogby Interactive poll shows.
The survey shows that one challenger — former Navy Secretary Jim Webb – has closed the gap considerably, and trails by just seven points, 49% to 42%. If the race continues to narrow, Allen may find himself in real trouble in a Virginia that has just elected its second Democratic governor in a row.
It appears Allen’s hopes for an easy re-election and a chance to stockpile money for a 2008 presidential bid are fading. He also leads businessman Harris Miller by twelve-points (50% to 38%), but Harris’ ability to self-fund his campaign may throw a wrench into the race.
Still, unless the polling shows the contest narrowing further, Allen seems a long shot for the Democrats to pick off—after all, with a 56% job approval rating, he is fairly popular—while Webb suffers from a serious name ID gap (44% in our latest poll say they don’t know enough about him to hold an opinion).
Some of the unpopularity of President Bush that helped elected Democrat Tim Kaine Governor last November still lingers in Virginia. Bush’s job approve is an anemic 41% in a state where he took 54% in 2004. New Gov. Kaine carries a 49% approval rating.
The electorate in the state is clearly split between the parties when it comes to Congress and party leadership. Democrats lead by a small margin (44% to 41%) in the generic “no-names†congressional ballot. But Republicans look strong in other measurements. Virginians still feel the Republicans in Congress do a better job of representing their values (by a 42% to 38% margin), and they also feel Republicans in the state congressional delegation better represent their values.
Republican Party leaders are also seen as narrowly having values more closely representing the electorate, compared to Democrats, the poll shows
the only nazis we allow in here are us spellingnazis and grammarnazis. Otherwise, Nurenberg rules !
Is that anywhere near Nuremberg?
I’m with you, CRC. I’ve only ever seen it written as ‘toe the line’ down here in Australia.
Let’s vote! toe.
Come on Jane. You know Joe is going to continue to represent the Likud party like he always has. If you want to know his position on foreign policy issues call up AIPAC and ask them.
An argument for “toe”:
http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-toe2.htm
Nürnberg is the correct spelling – anything else is auslander gibberish …
rwcole @ 4:51 pm — Looks like the Democratic strategy in Virginia should be to tie Allen in with Bush. I’m sure that wouldn’t be too hard.
*ilson46201 @ 4:55 pm — Their website must be run by auslanderen, then ;)
you still doing okay, crc?
http://eggcorns.lascribe.net/english/72/tow
An argument based in part on Condi Rice’s usage giving equal status to “tow” (while admitting the historical precendence of “toe”)
*ilson46201 @ 4:55 pm — BTW, how do you type umlauts?
*ilson46201 says:
April 5th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
“I believe “toe the line†has literary history – “tow the line†is likely the artifact of the Age of the Spellchecker and the Homonym Conumdrum…”
Isn’t there also a homophonic conundrum?
http://www.phrases.org.uk/bull…..s/413.html
Really BAD argument for “tow”.
A Fly-by link for Jane and Christy.
Pelosi Posts at Kos
Dunno…she’s got a lot of credibility to rebuild with me.
“Toe the line” is the only way I’ve ever seen it.
i vote for “toll the line” let it sing like a bell!
Cujo—Yeah- or more specifically- an attack on Allen as a Clusterfuck rubber stamper.
Is tonight German night?
rwcole
According to the Oxford English Dictionary, it’s toe the line: “to toe a or the line, mark…to conform, esp. to the defined standard or platform of a party.”
There’s no arguing with the OED.
Also, according to the OED, Stephen King coined the phrase “pie hole.” The first appearnance of “pie hole” in print is in Christine. Who knew?
My English teacher in HS told me ‘toe’ and I believe her.
Also in high school I claimed to be from Sirius but that has no bearing on my teacher’s intelligence, just mine.
Windows has the useful ‘Character Map’ thingie in Accesories, System Tools . It’ll give you all those weird foreign letters with cedillas, accents agoutes, umlauts, etc…
ʣώӚՖऒ൮ᄩἌℵ∰⑫â˜â–㌖冥铕鸎�ﺵ
Jane’s on a role tonight.
Cleter- any previous usage recorded for “toe” or “tow” yer “piehole”?
at least Jane is not on a troll. lame, but, hey.
rwcole (22)
If Condi says it, it must be wrong.
OK, I’m in a bad mood today after a particularly gruesome work week (and it’s only Wednesday!!!!) But whenever I see/hear about Lieberman support torture, I think about Woody Allen and The Sorrow and the Pity, a scene from Rome Open City, and the unimaginable concept of the Texas Prison System “trustee” or “Warsaw Kapo” for a different cultural referrent.
For such a self-righteous, religious identified, judgmental ass, he sure doesn’t mind helping out when the bosses want a little blood.
Save your tears for the living!
Cleter- I found that argument convincing as well.
Just skimmed the opinion from the Libby case, it was regarding the Libby side bitching about Patrick’s ex parte filings and that they want to see more, know more, get more, more, more, more.
The Judge said “not gonna do it, wouldn’t be prudent”, says he will make decisions and they’re complaining prematurely. He gives them two weeks to give him an ex parte outline of the points of Libby’s defense so he can make informed decisions. IANAL, however and I’m sure Christy will dissect it, but that was my fly-by.
yay
tom delay ’stole’ the line
Libby will die of old age before a jury is ever selected.
ps, and OT, is Sharkbabe around?
From previous thread –
Zen,
Hope you are feeling better! Always unhappy to hear about another nurse being under the weather.
Mui,
From my vantage point in the middle of CT on Bush visit: the good thing was that my husband works with a special ed child at a school along the shore and they got to see AF1 coming in. The little boy was just amazed that the president would be in an airplane right over his head!
Original plan was for Stamford, but Shays told WH no way, he didn’t want him where the $$ was, or he, Shays, would get fileted.
Bridgeport — poorest city in all of CT so they had to bring people from PA to talk about how great health savings accounts are.
Finally, the kid who got the “recognition” was a kid whose parents from India — who –get this — volunteered 100 hours of time at a health clinic. WTF? I put in 1000 hours as a candy striper way back when, and graduated after my junior year!
Me totally in the “toe” camp. Not even arguable.
Btw cigarette hunk Justin R really liked my favorite movie ever V for Vendetta too.
ANALYSES
Americans Support Guest Worker Proposals That Include Restrictions
On balance, the American public, although worried about illegal immigration, appears willing to accept some sort of guest worker program as long as the program involves explicit limitations and conditions.
(Gallup–on the same page as their revelation that women are more likely than men to say that they are divorced).
Nothing about “toes”.
Big Time pols like Pelosi -even Joementum- posting at Kos or here or anywhere is OK with me. Good way to build bridges and have dialogue. Except… they gotta write their own posts. Did Pelosi write that post or some staffer? That Pelosi post sounded very stafferlike to me. Maybe they talk that way, I don’t know. They could be like second primary school teachers and they talk like they do at work all the time. Maybe.
I figure, a staffer can check it for Official Gaffe Material, but can’t write it.
rw, you naysayer!
But I’m starting to doubt the January trial date.
I do think the judge is trying to keep them on a time limit with all the nonsense arguing. I know it’s SOP for the process, they have a right to defend thier client, but I do feel they are trying to drag it on and on…
rwcole-
OED has no listing for toe yer piehole. Or tow. Sorry.
I used OED online, and the piehole thing was their random factoid of the day.
Hi zenn! Just stumbled in…
Well said Jane. It’s time and way past time that decent people started to fight back, you Christy, Pach, a lot of the community here, are starting to push back and push back hard. God grant you the courage and the guile you’ll need to achieve victory the stakes are enormous.
rwcole @ 4:51 pm — Yeah but let’s see how Allen’s numbers hold up after we beat him about the head and shoulders for plugging General Boykin to take over the Special Operations Command. Boykin is the “military intelligence” general who went around giving speeches about Muslims being militarily inferior because they “worship a false god” (guess somebody forgot to the general that the god of Mohammed is also the same as of Abraham and Moses, and therefore, Jesus). He also went around showing a photo of a battle scene (I believe from Afghanistan) which showed a strange mark or object in the sky. Boykin referred to it as visual evidence of evil. General Ripper, the purity of your fluids will be protected…
Cleter–then we may have made history with “toe your piehole”. It is useful, it seems to me, in political discussions.
And to follow up on Zen’s post on “On Point” also available at http://www.onpointradio.org as podcast, and rebroadcast on XM satellite 9-11pm Eastern M-F.
Zen’s got it right — fabulous show. Talk for people with brain cells — truly explores all sides of the issues and does not tolerate name-calling or hogging air time.
Ein umlaut fer die: ü (Alt 129) or Ü (Alt 154). Dengyew (takes bow and a couple of curtsies).
kirby, I have been suffering from the season change with migraines and fibromyalgia pain. I always get through it, but it really knocks the stuffing out of me for a day or so after work now. It will be better by May, it usually is.
Thank you for your concern, I truly appreciate it. B^}
(just discovered this way of making glasses, a natural part of my face!)
Cleter- is the whole OED online now?
I can no longer read my “compact edition” even with the supplied magnifying glass.
In graduate school we had lengthy discussions about J.L. Austin- who thought it a great party to have a gang over to read the OED.
oops, tinyurl failed me for the first time ever!
I’ll try the linky to antiwar.com again in case anybody cares
Sharkbabe –
On your post this AM (and for those of you who are just getting here today for your fix — must-read on sex crimes by Christy this AM.
Glad to hear you are recovering. I too, had a similar experience — the boys next door — sons of the church elder — and my mother called me a liar and sent me over there day after day. Left home at age 16 for college, and to this day, can’t deal with her for more than about 4 hours at a time.
Although it sounds trite, there is something to be said of “if it doesn’t kill you, it makes you stronger.”
Perhaps there are so many of us with an abusive background, and brain cells that work, that we are particularly sensitive when people in authority lie to us and call us liars. We have been there, done that and are not going to take it any more.
*ilson46201
the only nazis we allow in here are us spellingnazis and grammarnazis.
don’t forget the punnazis (and the souped up version: punazzerati)
is this toe v. toe thing begging a question somewhere?
Knuckledragger – it was Somalia that Boykin alleges he saw that “sign.” Before anyone forgets Boyykin got the torture ball rolling and Boykin is now in line for promotion and being put in charge of special operations.
Also before anyone forgets on my other blog I did a posting to remind people of how these “christians” treat Americans:
Cause and Effect
i am so hoping this doesn’t go from bootlicker to toelicker or Victoria Toe-nsing.
ZennNurse
What are the symptoms of fibromyalgia? You can email me offline if you’d like at LisaDawn82 at Yahoo dot Com
new thread – new Speaker !
and OED : http://www.amazon.com/gp/produ…..oding=UTF8
Or worse- “Toe-nsing” licker..hard to even imagine.
rwcole-
Sweet! I’m not really sure what “toe your piehole” would mean, but it doesn’t sound complementary.
OT-anybody know what’s going on with the senate race in Florida? Harris seems to be bleeding from all orifices. Is the GOP just conceding it to Nelson? Are they worried that they may need the resources elsewhere? Or are they going to bust out somebody big, like Jeb? Local media coverage on Harris has gotten downright ugly down here. It just seems weird that the GOP would write of contesting that seat.
Golly, Gomer!
I am sooooo glad we got this semantic anal compulsiveness out of the way! (toe vs tow)
DITTO the alt spelling anal retentiveness! (how to spell Nuremberg … while oblivious to the context and connotations of the locale that gave us verdicts on genocide and those “quaint” Geneva Conventions, which just might be why a commenter listed it, however misspelled)
What a terrific article Jane posted on Jomentum Joe from a terrific sotto voce snark writer from the Nutmeg State.
Patriot Boy’s graphic homage to man-meat Jeff Gannon is just the right counterpoint to nutmeg snark.
The Word Detective to the rescue…
http://www.word-detective.com/103001.html
I love this guy’s blog.
(He says “toe the line” is correct.)
Cleter:
Here’s the latest from Zogby on Florida
“Don’t call me Kathy my name is Katherine” isn’t doing too well. Her own staff hates her and are quitting like flies–guess they’ve never seen her astride a steed- mammalias all a glistening.
Oops- forgot to leave the Zogby stuff- here it is:
Another close race is on the horizon for Florida, but this time it’s a governor’s race. Republicans hold only a slight margin, even though outgoing Governor Jeb Bush’s job approval is a very healthy 54%.
The current standing of the race is mixed, based on whom the parties nominate, but right now Republican Attorney General Charlie Crist is the marginal front runner. He tops both Democrats – Congressman Jim Davis by two points (42%-40%) and State Senator Rod Smith by five points (43%-38%). Democrat Davis tops the other Republican candidate, state Chief Financial Officer Tom Gallagher, by three points (41%-38%), but Gallagher is in a dead heat with Smith at 38% each.
Despite President Bush having just 42% of likely voting Floridians approving of his job in office, the state remains closely divided. Democrats have a slight edge in the generic Congressional ballot, leading by four points (44%-40%), but when it comes to values, the voters think Republicans better represent the electorate’s deeply held principles.
rwcole-
I use the university’s online subscription to OED. It seems complete to me. It’s easily searchable too. I’m not sure how the online version compares to the CD ROM.
New thread
Zen,
I have FM too — please write me at edmed [at] cox dot net — would love to talk more with you about it.
OT–but not really. We finally have a good chance to get a Dem Senator here in Texas, but she needs help. There’s a runnoff on 4/11 between her and this joke named Gene Kelly who’s made a career of sabotaging Dem candidates. If anyone here has a mind to help her (us) out, please go here:
http://www.radnofsky.com/
BTW: She’s running against Hutchison who’s jar has never been lower. Would be wonderful to get a Dem in here.
Thanks much everyone for all you do. :)
I am not sure what I think of the CT Post column. I think there is alot more contradiction in Joe’s record that could’ve been highlighted. Like NARAL ratings & non-filibuster support, etc. Maybe I’m missing something cause I read it quickly and it has an ironic tone.
Kirby, I’m glad some young students derived some enjoyment from the visit. Bush’s visit has stunt written all over it. Saw part of speech on tv and some jerk comments Bush made about Shays. Terrible, time, insensitivity to the plight of many Bridgport citizens (no doubt in regards to healthcare.).
On who gets abused & doesn’t become an abuser. I think the secret is wanting control. Many want control over their own lives. Others want to control others, sometimes to the point of annhilating personality, etc.. My theory. (OK. I’ve been reading Reading Lolita in Tehran as well. Author & her students point out how HH bears similiarity to totalitarian, or authoritarian Fundie regime.& Nabakov wanted to draw comparisons apparentl, maybe to Soviets)
Time to download new browser. Maybe Firefox?
minor, very technical detail – it’s called “toe†the line, not “tow†the line.
i thought it was “doe a deer.”
When Joe ran as VP, I was just a skim politics on the TV Dem. But I was embarrassed at how boring Joe was.
Now he is a force?
Kerry was also a disappointment to budding political awareness. A deep one.
I wanted Kerry to tell the American People the truth (as he knew it) about the Iraqi (occupation? war?0
Kerry didn’t get it. He had a muddied THE message that left me behind. Thanks to FDL–BRADBLOG–C&L–AMERICAblog-
I can’t see the picture of Gannon giving props to Lieberman without thinking of this graphic I asked a friend to create for me a while back.
I’m warning you though–it ain’t pretty.
The OED lists the erroneous “tow” in the top ten misused
homonyms. Number one is diffuse/defuse.
Tow/toe comes between reign/rein and pour/pore.
http://www.askoxford.com
Toe the line!
Think of what the meaning of the phrase is. And then explain to me what it has to do with people pulling on a rope.
Geez!
Google votes: “toe the line” 496,000 hits.
“tow the line” 143,000 hits,
the top hits in the second case are people trying to correct misusage.
(Tugboats tow lines.)
No, Skippy, it’s “do, a dee-ah, a female dee-ah” … and it’s dee-ah because the terminal ‘r’ sound is pretty ugly when sung.
The song is based on the solfege syllables, “do, re, mi, fa, sol, la, ti” for the notes in the major scale.
Please don’t get me started on fixed vs. moveable do … I changed my major from music to biology when I realized I was in the custody of solfege nazis.
BC
Toto would say you are all wrong.
ToeTowHOLD the line, love isn’t always on time.No, no, no.
George Orwell wrote an essay on Politics and the English Language in May 1945 which is still referenced today.
In the essay, he uses the confusion between “toe the line” and “tow the line” to illustrate the problem of dying metaphors:
“Some metaphors now current have been twisted out of their original meaning without those who use them even being aware of the fact. For example, toe the line is sometimes written as tow the line.”
Orwell’s advice is to use neither.
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