Bad decisions have a way of reappearing at the worst possible moment to stab you in the back. Especially when there is documentary evidence that a better decision was right there for the choosing -- and you decided to go with your piss poor planning cronies instead. And when you steadfastly refuse to admit mistakes...well, that just makes those piss poor decisions rising up to haunt you even more difficult to spin away, doesn't it? Prior to the start of the Iraq War, the State Department, under the supervision of Tom Warrick, put together a comprehensive plan to move Iraq from its then-current state of dictatorship towards a more democratic, open and functioning free society. Via Juan Cole, this morning I found that a copy of those plans has now been posted online at The Memory Hole, and they are worth a peek -- if only to see what could have been had Don Rumsfeld and Paul Wolfowitz and Dick Cheney not thrown those plans in the garbage. Because, you know, the whole candy and flowers thing has gone smashingly thus far -- especially all that non-existent post-invasion security planning. Boo yah. Our men and women in uniform deserved a hell of a lot better than piss poor planning without any consideration for the worst case scenarios in which we now find ourselves. Just as a single example, Iraq is now experiencing a 3-year low in electrical power, due to the overwhelming number of sabotage incidents across the grid. Was there any planning as to how to deal with this up front? No clue. But we'd better start working on some infrastructure protection planning post haste, if the President's new timetable for withdrawal is going to come close to being met. Oh, and nice flip flop on the whole "no timetables under my watch" lie, Bushie. The corporate media may have ignored this little tidbit, but I heard it loud and clear. I'm sure Rep. Murtha will accept your apology for smearing him any day now, would that you had the strength of character to actually give him one. I'm just saying. In my book, you do not plan for the worst only after it comes to pass -- and Rumsfeld and his cronies should be held to account. As should President Bush. Somehow, I think history will look askance at flying in Ahmed Chalabi and his "Gucci warriors"  (and what idiot came up with that name?) as the "big plan" for stability in Iraq. Reuters is reporting on yesterday's DoD presser, which caused a bit of a stir, with Gen. Peter Pace saying, out loud, that there really was no evidence at all whatsoever that Iran as a state was supplying insurgents in Iraq with weapons materiale.
The top U.S. military officer said on Tuesday the United States does not have proof that Iran's government is responsible for Iranians smuggling weapons and military personnel into Iraq. President George W. Bush said on Monday components from Iran were being used in powerful roadside bombs used in Iraq, and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said last week that Iranian Revolutionary Guard personnel had been inside Iraq. Asked whether the United States has proof that Iran's government was behind these developments, Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the military's Joint Chiefs of Staff, told a Pentagon briefing, "I do not, sir."
That this came from the podium at the Pentagon is a huge deal, and no doubt one that resulted in a bit of an ass chewing after the presser -- but sometimes, honesty in service to your troops is a must, even when your Commander in Chief isn't so big on the whole "tell me all of the facts, especially the bad news" sort of philosophy.It's certainly one thing to say that component parts of the IEDs and other munitions come from Iranian manufacturers and suppliers who are out to make a quick buck or from militant factions headquartered in Iran who are supplying their Shi'ite compadres in Iraq in what they consider a holy war for the soul of Islam -- and quite another thing entirely to say that the government of Iran itself is supplying them. I'm certain if we looked closely at a lot of the IEDs, we could also say that some of their components came from the US and our allies, given that we were supplying Saddam Hussein with munitions for a long time as our surrogate against Iran in the 1980s and beyond. (For a lovely pix of Saddam with Rummy, see here.) US military airstrikes are significantly increasing in Iraq, according to Knight Ridder. (Last throes, my ass.) Iraq's neighbors are increasingly worried that the chaos in that country could draw the entire region into a protracted civil war.
They are also considering its likely impact on an already shifting regional balance of power, in which Sunni Muslim Saudi Arabia fears the rising political clout of Shi'ite Muslim Iran. "If war breaks out in Iraq, it will become a battleground involving everyone in the region," said Kuwaiti political analyst Jassem al-Saadoun. "Every one of Iraq's neighbours is guilty of meddling in its affairs for political gain." Ever since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion that ousted Saddam Hussein, several Arab officials have warned of civil war in Iraq, where Shi'ites dominate the government and security forces and Sunni insurgents control swathes of the country.
This sort of warning was going on before we invaded Iraq -- and it is information the Bush Administration ignored to the region's peril, now precariously balanced on the edge of the sword of civil war hanging over Iraq, day by day.As for our troop drawdown -- well, it isn't going well at all, since Gen. Casey has had to request more troops because of the increasing violence and instability in Iraq. That's right: US troop levels are increasing, contrary to the image spin and tap dance from the White House. George Bush can blame the media all he wants for this quagmire -- after all, you can't have people telling the truth about how Iraq is slipping quickly down that civil war slope under our watch, now can we, since it makes President Bush look bad and calls out his rosy scenario public statements for the lies they are. But he only has himself and his advisors to blame. They disregarded intelligence and foreign policy analysis, warnings from our allies in the region that civil war was the likely result of invasion, and updates all along from field commanders that more troops, more materiale, more planning was necessary to quell the increasing tensions and to give our men and women in uniform the ability to do their jobs properly before even more chaos and civil war resulted. Those repeated warnings went unheeded. We have made a mess of things.
Iraqi authorities discovered at least 87 corpses, men shot to death execution-style, as Iraq edged closer to open civil warfare. Twenty-nine of the bodies, dressed only in underwear, were dug out of a single grave Tuesday in a Shiite neighborhood of Baghdad. The recent bloodshed appeared to be retaliation for a bomb and mortar attack in the Sadr City slum that killed at least 58 people and wounded more than 200 two days earlier. Iraqi authorities discovered at least 87 corpses, men shot to death execution-style, as Iraq edged closer to open civil warfare. Twenty-nine of the bodies, dressed only in underwear, were dug out of a single grave Tuesday in a Shiite neighborhood of Baghdad. Also, Iraq's Interior Minister said that some 421 al-Qaeda fighters tried to infiltrate an Iraqi army battalion that is responsible for guarding all the check points and entrances to the green zone, where the U.S. embassy and key government posts are housed in the Baghdad, reports CBS News correspondent Lara Logan.
The fact of the matter is: George Bush lost Iraq before he even invaded the country, because he and his advisors failed to properly consider all of the contingencies. They are now reaping what they sowed -- but unfortunately they are doing it on the backs of our brave men and women in uniform. And on the backs of Iraqis and others in the region who now have to live, day in and day out, with these consequences. I wish I had good answers for all of this, but I don't. But the Ides of March is feeling awfully grim today (and that's only a discussion of Iraq, things aren't looking so cheery in a lot of other sectors as well today). With this much sectarian violence and animosity bubbling over the borders, and the potential for its spread across the whole of the Middle East, I have never been more fearful than I am right now. Would that President Bush had the humility to understand what his mistakes have wrought for years and years to come. (Graphics love to The Worried Shrimp. btw, yes, this is ReddHedd posting -- I've switched to my real name because hiding behind a pseudonym was getting on my last nerve. Just FYI.)
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Murtha!
Bush lost Iraq. Exactly.
And what a doozie of a graphic.
Christy, you must have been soooooooo giddy when you appended that to your magnificent analysis. I know I would have been.
I found that graphic a while ago and have just been saving it for today. That the confluence of news on Iraq and the graphic are so sadly well matched — well, it was a bit of a moment this morning, I’ll put it that way.
Clusterfuck has three years left in office. He can’t be trusted- he behaves like teenager with a learning disability and severe emotional problems..he needs babysitters.and with goopers controlling congress he has none.
For all of our sakes- let’s hope that the dems can convince the american people that they will do a good job of babysitting.
ya, I posted that memory hole link in comments yesterday
we already knew this information, but there is the documentation
WHY ISN’T THIS FRONT PAGE HEWS?
abc staff hsa told us they get into tons of trouble if they post anything critical of the president.
again, we at firedog already knew this, but this country is in tons of trouble and whoever has any direct contact with reporters of main stream media needs to have a sit down and put their patriotism to test, because if there were a time for patriots to stand up for what they believe, the time is now
ps
is there anyway to get a “preview post” button please?
I hate reading my typos when it’s too late
I haven’t had a chance to check previous threads to see whether this HuffPo post has been mentioned:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....17315.html
When time permits, please read Karen’s comments.
me to me — yeah, there is a huge difference between knowing something via reading between the inference lines and actually seeing the detailed, black and white blueprint in front of your eyes. And we’re tweaking on the internal site code — so we’ll see about priviews. I’m, unfortunately, not a tech-savvy person (was really nervous that the post this morning wouldn’t work, even after Jane talked me through the new template last night, if that tells you anything), but I’ll pass along the request and see what we can do.
georgia10, who was my hetero love before I knew these fine ladies here, has another nice call to arms up at kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....91656/4429
Other housekeeping…
- There isn’t a contact link on the new page. (That’s probably good right now, comments are a better clearinghouse).
- Is the double blog-ad box intentional?
- Maybe the paypal donate button should have a more predominant position?
Also, had anyone attended the drinking liberally? I was considering one of the DC meetings, was curious if any FDLers pop in.
I was at Drinking Liberally for the first time last Sunday. Met Matt Stoller and others.
Worth getting to know some peeps.
“Gucci warrior” -must be a revision of “Gucci Muj” (mujahaddin) from the war in Afghanistan; it referred to the well funded and very well appointed (Land cruisers and Designer duds) fighters v. the Soviets (one of whom was Osama)…I remember reading that term, 15? years ago.
… I’m stewing … as I ponder things, the rage is building again…
So, everyone is getting all pissy about a call to censure the President. So you get pissy about a call for censure, but illegally spying on Americans, “eh, not sure if it’s legal or illegal. Maybe we’ll look into it, maybe not” (turns out not).
When we call out Senators regarding censure, we should ask the question - How do YOU think we should hold the president accountable for breaking the law?
Good Morning Everyone,
rwcole - did you see the poll #’s yesterday from seniors and military families/’affiliates ?
62% of Seniors say invasion was mistake
54% of Military Families/Affiiates
say get out now
anyway - let’s just table Feingold/Censure for the moment and ask -
Why aren’t the Dems all over this ? All their rationale against censure isn’t a problem on this issue. Have read a lot of Karen Kwiatowski’s stuff - a lot of it is being presented in mainstream media just this week via the book Cobra II by Trainor and NYT guy - not that the American people need anymore convincing. (Yeah, go ahead, bring that Iran noise)
btw - The Hackeett interview segment on TDS was even more biting than their usual stuff and Hackett clearly ‘gets’ what’s going on with so called Dem leadership - it could have been written by someone here
Pachacutec - The DL groups in NC seem to be picking up. There is a new group in the Chapel Hill area and the Raleigh/Durham and Asheville chapters seem to be pretty active. I will have to wait until the girls are older. Week nights just aren’t good for me, but I’m glad they are getting more active in places other than DC. I think it’s a great idea and I don’t drink. (Other than a glass of wine every now and then)
SP,CPA - re: the link to Kwitkowsky piece - wow. She’s come a long way since her Pentagon days. Love the phrase “cheerbombers of the AIPAC” but otherwise…not a very cheery scenario she paints, is it? THose are the two things I pray hardest do not come to pass - nukes and a depression. The nuke drumbeat has never been very loud but it has been a steady undercurrent through the whole war. Her piece reminds me of Larry Beinhart’s book “Fog FActs”, which notes that there is so much information swirling around out in the ether that it results in information overload,often before you can put the puzzle pieces in their proper places. It is to evil-doers (and I include George here as their leader)advantage that “facts” abound, especially if they are carefully crafted by their side.
Sad but good post Christy. This is the 2nd time that Pace has contradicted the ghoul Rumsfeld. I expect he has his butt chewed for this one too, and maybe, just maybe, he actually can stand up to the incompetent civilian leadership.
From the Wapo:
Last week, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld ordered military commanders to come up with clear rules for how U.S. forces should respond if they witness detainee abuse. The order followed an exchange between Rumsfeld and Marine Gen. Peter Pace, the Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman, at a news conference Nov. 29.
Pace said then that it was “absolutely the responsibility of every U.S. service member if they see inhumane treatment being conducted to intervene to stop it.”
Rumsfeld said, “I don’t think you mean they have an obligation to physically stop it; it’s to report it.”
Pace responded, “If they are physically present when inhumane treatment is taking place, sir, they have an obligation to try to stop it.”
wonderful article and great picture.
I wonder what Scott M would say if asked at a press conference if the troop numbers were actually increasing instead of decreasing.
other sad news the republics voted down a bill to increase money for vets.
I hate this administration and I don’t hate anybody!
I think it’s time for a multi-blog full court press. Same thing that was done for Ciro, but this time for Feingold. It’s already happening a little, but it needs to be stepped up and framed properly. Georgia10 did a good job this morning on Kos by emphasising this isn’t a win/loss thing, it’s more of something to just get the whole issue back in the headlines. However, I think the blogsphere should take advantage of it and move it a little further…
We need to know, and we need to know now what seantors will not hold this president accountable. Has anyone heard anything from ANY of our senators that gives you hope that they will hold Bush accountable? I mean, anything?
I sure haven’t and I’ve been looking. You just have a few talking about petitions for their latest pet cause, but no one is supporting Feingold and it’s embarassing.
I say we give them until the end of the week. Will you join with the majority of the COUNTRY and hold this president accountable, or are you just a chickenshit hoping to milk your curent gig for all it’s worth?
No middle ground, no maybes, no creative positioning….just a straight answer. Censure is the least possible thing the senate could do without just ignoring the whole thing (which is being tried by both parties.) Will you be such a coward as to not even support a slap on the wrist? Are you just milking your current gig for all it’s worth?
I think we need to know now who are allies are. This issue is about as unifying as we are going to get. If we can’t get broad support for this, then what’s the point?
(Of course, my ideas are always the best and everyone should act on them because I say so.)
I would like to meet other FDLers at a DC-area Drinking Liberally. Do any attend the one in Arlington?
Check this out:
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States may want to keep a long-term military presence in Iraq to bolster moderates against extremists in the region and protect the flow of oil, the Army general overseeing U.S. military operations in Iraq said on Tuesday.
http://in.today.reuters.com/ne.....ived=False
I had a conversation with Senator Warner’s staff this morning. First of all, the staffer was very polite, listened, and discussed the issue with me. Very professional, and to be commended.
The points I was pressing were…
- Does Senator Warner believe the NSA wiretapping issue has been fully addressed?
- Does Senator Warner believe the Presidents actions are illegal? (Answer: No)
- Does Senator Warner believe that wiretapping American Citizens is illegal? — Hedge —
- Does Senator Warner believe that the NSA wiretapping issue has been fully addressed? — No, hearings are on-going –
- If the Presidents actions are deemed to violate FISA, then what measures are appropriate for reprimanding the President? Isn’t it premature to rule out censure? — No real answer here, will pass my opinion onto the Senator –
In response to an e-mail I’d sent Sen. Warner months ago, the Senator indicated in closing “… it is vitally important that all such actions be within the law and the rights of Americans be protected.”
This is not done yet.
Have no idea if this link will work- hope so
if not, visit TBogg’s front page this am to see this picture - they have redefined deluded
http://photos1.blogger.com/hel.....iraq.1.jpg
DL in NC? Do tell! I loves me some refreshments! I mean, euridite political discourse.
can somebody explain what I did wrong posting that link? it sure looks ugly, it works, but i just made a mess of the new digs.
watou - I didn’t see an Arlington on the webpage, only DC. I live in Alexandria close to metro, so Arlington or DC are equally fine for me. I’d want to meed other FDLers also…
Arlington has closed its Drinking Liberally. There used to be one but I think I heard the coordinator moved or ran out of time.
Dc is the one for this area now, and they are very good on the homepage about keeping their chapter lists updated and current.
Christy, the redirect from the old-site is gone. I used my blogspot bookmark and thought some posts got whacked. Turned out I was at the old site…
anotherpawn — thanks, we are trying to work around a blip, which hopefully will be fixed. The redirect ought to be back shortly, but I really appreciate the heads up.
Three years ago, when Bush ordered the invasion of Iraq to begin, I sent an email to Josh Marshall saying that the war was already lost.
I said we would win some battles, probably all of the battles, but the war was already lost, and the only open question was how the disaster would unfold.
George Bush lost Iraq when he decided to invade.
ck:
That’s what cowardly, weak republicans do. Bush and the Rubber Stamp Republicans are losers.
Feingold and others who join the Accountability Caucus in support of censure represent us, the silent majority of American opinion that:
* supports getting a court oder before spying on Americans
* supports Murtha’s plan for redeployment
* supports our troops, rather than betray them by failing to plan
* wants and end to the Republican Culture of Corruption in Washinton.
I’m heading out for the day folks.
Back later tonight.
Christy - Will the blogroll be transferred from the old site after you and Jane find a new Web host with sufficient bandwidth for FDL traffic?
As for the bandwidth problems, I’m wondering how much of it is caused by leaving one or more threads open on our respective computers when we’re trying to keep up with comments. On the old site, wasn’t it Haloscan’s bandwidth that was utilized if any of us left several threads open?
jeebus - the good people of the heartland have turned on Patriot Pat Roberts
www.hutchnews.com/opinion/ editorials/stories/rights021706.html
pachaccutec - wishing you a safe drive and a good day with the folks
OT
So the Pakistanis paid money to get the 9/11 report to omit any reference to their involvement.
After the commission tipped the lobbyists about the damaging revelations on Pakistan’s role in 9/11, they contacted the panel members and asked them to go soft on the country. The Friday Times claimed that a lot of money was used to silence these members.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/.....962372.asp
Photoshop guru’s might be able to improve this photo a little bit.
http://www.nationalreview.com/images/stabenow.JPG
Cristy — re the Media Matters comment on the failure to note the “flip-flop” re setting a timetable for withdrawal, the WaPo today has an article on page 1 by Baker and Graham, entitled “Handover’s Impact on War Uncertain,” which discusses whether the President’s flop is realy a flip. From the article:
“The stated target came after Bush spent much of last year rejecting what he called “artificial timetables set by Washington politicians.” Aides yesterday distinguished between the president’s target and the timetables sought by critics for bringing U.S. troops home.
“It’s not a deadline. It’s a goal,” national security adviser Stephen J. Hadley said in an interview. “It’s an articulation in a fairly concrete way of what he’s been saying we want to be doing for a while. . . . What the president was doing was suggesting where we would like to be by the end of the year. Whether we get there will depend on developments on the ground, progress in the war against terrorists, the training and all the rest.”
Mommybrain says:
March 15th, 2006 at 3:06 pm
I don’t foresee a depression, since we have a lot of safeguards in place that were nonexistent in 1929. Regional recessions exhibiting varying degrees of severity are a possibility.
Christy, what a breathtakingly economical and at the same time, detailed, analysis of the most blatant contradictions. IMO Dems from all over the country can use this in their campaign literature, ads, and speeches. “It’s the contradictions, stupid.”
Stephen — we’ll eventually get everything transferred. I’m not certain how to answer your bandwidth question, because I’m just not sure — but I know our current tech guy (who has been nothing short of a miracle worker for us) has been working on a number of issues for us, and that is more than likely one of them.
We are having a glitch this morning, so there will be posts both here and on the old site, just FYI everyone.
Christy — sorry, here’s the missing “h”
Another fine post. It’s natural to weep for what has been lost, but please don’t despair. The entire phony edifice this criminal group has erected over several years is crashing down; it will be awful to watch, but it must happen before anything decent can be rebuilt. The deep-seated moral integity that suffuses and flows from the essays you’ve written, shaming the Bush crowd, and from Jane, ridiculing their dead end supporters, are the new foundation. Keep saying it.
Thanks, John. My first draft was much longer, but I realized it was a bit…erm…angry instead of being informative and useful, so I cut out a bit of investive to tighten things up. I was much happier with the leaner version, so it’s nice to know it works for others as well.
Following up what angie said at March 15th, 2006 at 3:59 pm –
In the Summer of 2001, Pakistan ISI Chief Lt. General Mahmoud Ahmad transferred $100000 to 9-11 Ringleader Mohamed Atta. On September 4th 2001, he arrived in the US. On the morning of 9/11, he was having breakfast with Senator Phil Graham.
Pakistan’s ISI (Inter Service Intelligence) planned the 9/11 attacks, and sub contracted the work to Osama and Al Qaeda. The head of Saudi intel was fired in August 2001 — but it was reported that he was in Las Vegas in the weeks preceding 9/11, and he help organized the Saudi escape flights after the attacks. Las Vegas was rendezvous central for the 9/11 hijackers.
On the morning of 9/11, Israeli Mossad agents were arrested in New Jersey, after videotaping the attacks on the WTC.
Of all the countries in the Middle East, only Iraq had NO CONNECTIONS to the 9/11 attacks. All of this was known before Bush launched the invasion.
Please add my request for a post preview. I was so embarrassed by the typo in my last post when I saw it.
Uncertainty is the air. Will the Guns of March replay? Any rational observer predicted that the Invasion of Iraq was fraught with dangers. All of which are coming true in spades. Yet, these consequences are tame when compared to a bombing campaign on Iran that could easily spiral into an economic depression or unleash the horrors of nuclear war. If a leader was so delusional to invade Iraq, couldn’t he be so detached from reality to start bombing Iran?
On top of this corporate media and Congress have bought into the war mentality. There is no clear discussion of what is really happening or oversight of the executive branch.
oops — investive = invective
Clearly, I could use some preview myself, or you guys are going to start calling me the Typo Queen. lol
Geez, this stuff puts me in such a bad mood, and yet I feel an obligation to know as much as I can, so that I have answers for those who just think they are informed. It’s a curse, at times, not to be able to ignore the blatant and rampant incompetence of this administration, which, coupled with the criminal component, leaves me completely befuddled at why it is still being tolerated and allowed to continue with no consequence to the perpetrators. Deep breaths (slowly in…slowly out…)
With so much incompetence, and with the incompetents still “on the job,†it is not clear to me how things in Iraq (or anywhere else) can get on track before the whole country just explodes in conflagration, and becomes irretrievably lost. It just kills me to see our young men and women working so hard at such a futile endeavor, and being rewarded upon their return with unconscionably inadequate health benefits.
It would be one thing if we had planned and executed in accordance with the plan, and things had gone in another direction, but to know that there was planning that was ignored (just as there was intelligence that was ignored), ought to be enough to send Rumsfeld and company packing. Unfortunately, firing that cabal is about as useful as cutting off the dead branches of a tree that has a fatal case of root rot and thinking that it will make things better. Ain’t. Gonna. Happen.
If the Bushies were as smart as they think they are, they would have long ago brought the Dems to the table, if for no other reason than to share ownership of this debacle. Instead, all they can do is point to the Dems and say, “But YOU voted for the war, so this is your fault, too.†Unfortunately, the administration has used that quite effectively to silence any criticism. Rather than see the Dems resort to the lame and whiny response of, “but you didn’t tell us the truth,†I would rather see the Dems not fall for that tactic, and force the conversation back to the FACT of the mess and what this administration is going to do about it. That presumes, of course, that the administration is capable of a credible effort to admit to the reality of what is happening in Iraq. Sending Bush out to the usual friendly audiences to give speeches about how it’s so hard, but we are going to win, is an exercise that is falling on deaf ears, and is not doing one damn thing to change conditions on the ground in Iraq. Not one damn thing.
There have been so many points along the way where we had the power to change the direction of this war; instead, the administration has inexplicably and passively watched one failure after another from the sidelines and refused to do anything different. Isn’t that the old definition of insanity – doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result?
I’m at the point – and have been for some time – where I honestly cannot listen to Bush utter even one word without my back (and my blood pressure) going up and my skin crawling. I have the same reaction when I READ what he says, as I can hear his voice in my head. ACK!
Thanks again, Christy, to both you and Jane, for all that you bring us in the way of information. I truly believe that knowledge is power, and while we all feel pretty powerless at this point, I think the time is not far off when all this knowledge will stand us in good stead.
Re: post previews and typos
I often will compose in Word and proof before I copy and past it into the comment block; it may not catch all the typos, but it helps!
Can we still call you Redd? Please?
Punaise — for you, anything. ;-)
Garrison Keillor on the day of reckoning for the
current occupant of the White House– enjoy, it’s a beauty.
http://www.commondreams.org/vi.....315-35.htm
heh heh. I’ll try not to abuse the privelege. :-)
ck #44
I read the site where Angie posted but your additional information is mind-blowing. Where is the source for this information, as I would like to read that too. Thank you.