Fitz.

Fitz & Feingold.

Fitz, Feingold & firedoglake

Jane!

Finally figured out that you didn’t mean “our” Grampa.

Jane…I’d almost forgotten that O’Lielly comment.

By the way…have you seen that big check yet?

Could you use “Gramps” instead?

Much commentary on the WaPo article occured in the previous thread. Your list of quotes combined with the title sums things up nicely. With Democrats like these, who needs Republicans?

… O’Reilly called me an online terrorist funded by liberal billionaires…

Hell, you’d think those liberal billionaires could fix you up with a better web hosting company…

oooo
…”increasingly influential online community”…

VG—Jane’s Grampa reference had me going for a minute too. Any body heard from him recently?

Can someone explain why, on some earlier threads, there was so much underlining (indicating a link)? It meant that all the comments, including the reply box, were linked to whatever website had been posted. Is someone just not closing the link and thus everything posted thereafter is part of the link?

From the Dodd/Lieberman link in Jane’s post:

In the latest Quinnipiac University poll, for example, Lieberman enjoys a 71 percent approval rating among Republicans, and 57 percent approval within his own party.

ROFL!!!

Getting trashed by Malkin was one of the happiest days of my life.

With enemies like her, who needs friends?

Dana @ March 15th, 2006 5:38 am

Unfortunately, this new comment site doesn’t complete HTML tags that people leave unterminated in their posts. Haloscan, the old comment site, did this. People will have to be careful, I suppose. A link is one type of HTML tag.

Dana, it might be two things. [1] Some people familiarizing themselves with the HTML in a previewless world, just underlined or struck everything by mistake. [2] The old site it seemed to me usually shortened a link when I pasted it in. This one doesn’t seem to be shortening the links. They stay the same length they were in the address bar. I’ll gladly defer, however, on this one.

Swopa, btw, really loved, as per usual, your second last post on Iraq and the two dictatorships we have created.

Dana — which post?

Man, Feingold is impressive as hell. He’s got my vote for whatever he runs for.

Such a great thing to hear him go right at the scummy pimps of the ReThug Party. Like see him debate “Cat Killer” Frist….

“extremely pleased….” yeah, kick ‘em in the goolies Russ!

One more thing: Gore/Feingold 2008!

:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

I’ll never do this again…..

I left an open a href and it swallowed the whole post. Jane, ask your guru to investigate the termination of those things. There is a another risk associated with the filter of input and he/she is probably aware of that issue.

Oh, Jane. I’ve never posted on here, and am relatively new to FDL. But can I tell you how much I love your balls-to-the-wall style? Man, there’s times I wish I were straight. Clutch the pearls, I’m on board for the bumpiest ride on the net.

Thanks, John and Cujo359. What you say makes sense. What doesn’t is why other people were able to post despite the problem.

Oh, and Fitz, Feingold, Firedoglake, and FDR.

ccmask– and I thought you were talking about alank…

The corporate media is “not getting it” wrt to Feingold, censure, and how it relates to the corporate media. Porter Goss and the neocons are going to try to convict Risen, Priest and their sources of TREASON for the NSA leaks. Arlen Specter just announced proudly in the well of the Senate yesterday, that he doesn’t know anything about the NSA spying. Once the trial gets going, we may not read anything about it, because everythings “classified.”

Call for T-Rex…T-Rex, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Are you deleting my comments now? Is that it?

I emailed for T-rex, but if they are at the airport, I hope they pick here the page.

Jane, the problem happened in two earlier threads today. I can go back and check where they were, if you like.

The NYT editorial says the Democrats hit the right note:
“The founding fathers understood that there would be times in American history when the country lost confidence in the judgment of the president. Congress and the courts are supposed to fill the gap. But the system of checks and balances is a safety net that doesn’t feel particularly sturdy at present. The administration seems determined to cut off legitimate court scrutiny, and the Republicans who dominate the House and Senate generally intervene only to change the rules so Mr. Bush can do whatever he wants. (If the current Congress had been called on to intervene in the case of Mr. Allen, it would probably have tried to legalize shoplifting.)

The Democratic Party is not exactly the last word in prescience, but even the Democrats have put their finger on the mood of the moment, focusing on the theme of administrative incompetence. They’re striking the right note, but it’s not a tune we can afford to listen to for the next three years.”

Those were the last two paragraphs of the main editorial, “A Stumble a Day.” There’s an understatement.

wow…that was fast.

My spelling is atrocious.

Okay. If you’re going to complain about problems, please tell me where they are or it makes it very difficult to do anything about them.

Service has improved ;)

Pop over to Americablog and check out John’s latest rant. Its a BARNBURNER!!! I fear both of you are not going to get much sleep tonight

“We are here today because President William Jefferson Clinton decided to put himself above the law, not once, not twice, but repeatedly,” Sensenbrenner, R-WI said.

That was in 1999 I believe. So, why do Democrats have a big anxiety attack over Russ? Would somebody get them all some Effexor?

Yay, the underlines from the last post, comment 91 on, are gone!

I want to re-propose my idea that, while not EPU’d ™, certainly got VG-underscored:

I’m pinning a condom to my lapel for work tomorrow, to celebrate the Ides of March.

And to remind everyone that Karl Rove is having lunch with Mary Carey at the White House. And that the Chimperor gets sloppy seconds.

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Need preview function soon…

“Once you start a project, amazing people start to join†– Major Nate Allen (U.S. Army)

The Daily Show got Paul Hackett to do a spot on piece of satire tonight about the Democratic mind set.

Political Parties are vessels, just look how hard the Chirstian Right worked to high jack the Republican Party. The Democrats can be taken back, but it won’t be a stroll in the park.

It’s either “All hands on deck, or every man for himself.”

Don’t expect alot of quality time with Sen Dodd of CT on the Feingold thing.

Bad JuJu for Christopher Robin

(juju
n 1: the power associated with a juju
2: a charm superstitiously believed to embody magical powers
[syn: voodoo, hoodoo, fetish, fetich])

Thank his Dad for the Memories:

In 1967, Democratic Sen. Thomas J. Dodd of Connecticut (Chris Dodd’s Daddy)was censured by the Senate, 92-5, for using campaign money to pay personal bills.

Finegold has already had a major accomplishment…he has put the issue of spying on citizens back on the front page. And he’s helped us understand how many spineless Democrats reside inside-the-beltway.

TeddySF – I am a little concerned over your use of the “TM” in conjunction with “EPU’d.”

Feingold and Clark for 2008! You heard it here first.

RE: Mary Carey at the White House…
Well, at least she supports the troops.

http://images.google.com/imgre…..D%26sa%3DG

Russ Feingold has been the most impressive person in DC for at least the past nine months, with John Murtha running a close second.

The lack of support from the rest of the party has been absolutely shameful. The party leaders think they look stronger by ducking a confrontation. What planet are they on?

Let’s see if blockquote works:

– MikeB
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Getting trashed by Malkin was one of the happiest days of my life.

MalKKKin ain’t even fit to carry your trash out to the curb.

Well try this:

Touches a nerve indeed. Russ is playing this most astutely.

– MikeB
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Jane, I hope you already have a few sets of poodle PJs (apart from anything you might receive in the future), so that you can kick back for a while. We’re hanging in there with you. I really screwed up a few comments on a previous thread by not closing a strike tag, but the end result was amusing. I think you should let that one it stay as is, otherwise the following comments wouldn’t make sense at all. The episode started at: http://firedoglake.com/2006/03…..ment-52656

I thought that I had turned off the strikeout. But, for those even less experienced than I am, the reply instructions don’t actually tell you how to turn off a tag. Check out the light grey above the comment box– I am wary of cutting and pasting this text, just in case putting it in a comment really screws things up!!!!

rubbersoul: Thanks for the heads up on Americablog…….found this there also:

“Laura Bush Would Vote for Woman President”
by John in DC – 3/14/2006 09:46:00 PM

Stay tuned for tomorrow’s installment: “Laura Bush would swim with black folk.”

How do you shut it off, so it doesn’t run into the next post down?

I think I fixed the unclosed tag and dreaded emoticon problems.

The Feingold censure is the most politically important event in the Senate since the vote to invade Iraq. I’m not sure that historians will be able to associate it with Democrats, however. The Independents are gaining seperation, and this provides the beginnings of a third branding option which the word “Independent” itself fails to adequately brand. It’s far more significant than that.

The censure movement represents Constitutional Reformationism. Naming the movement distances it from both halves of the rotten establishment which voted for debacle, and makes enough room for refugees from those orthodox parties that together make up the Persistently Cowed Senate to flee to for reelection, largely free of their party machines. A big new patch of political ground has opened up, and there is electoral sunlight shining on it for whoever has the courage to stand there in its center, and the partisan edges are going to get darker before we’re through.

I’ve read a lot of history…historians are just reporters who spend hang out in libraries, and they too look for time-honored hooks and angles. The Feingold Censure is a golden hook that can write a book, almost by itself. It’s either the doomed, last-ditch effort of a Harrison-Ford-Hero to brace open democracy’s closing trap door, or it’s the start of a massive sweep of Pragmatic Populism. Or both. Thanks for glomming onto the issue and getting me to call my idiotic Senator.

Here’s my late nite contribution, my email to DiFi. One went to Barbara Boxer as well, but without the special creamy filling I pasted from fdl’s DiFi post today about Big Dog’s censure. Also, I made up a new name for Pat Roberts’ and Jay Rock’s new clubhouse:

Dear Senator Feinstein:

I emailed your office at this contact page on Sunday. I called your San Francisco office on Monday morning. I was told, by the young man who answered the telephone at One Post Street, that it would be reasonable to assume that, as a member of the Judiciary and Intelligence Committees, and as a Democratic member of the new Special Investigative Intelligence Committee on Illegal Warrantless Domestic Spying on American Citizens, it was reasonable to assume that you would be in favor of Senator Russell Feingold’s Resolution for Censure of President Bush. I asked to be tallied as a supporter of Senator Feingold’s censure resolution. I asked to be emailed or called when you had decided whether you supported Senator Feingold’s Resolution for Censure of President Bush.

I have heard no public statements by you. I have not heard whether you support the censure resolution.

I was reminded recently, though, that you have supported a previous censure resolution which stated in part:

“Whereas [the] president of the United States, deliberately misled and deceived the American people, and people in all branches of the United States government;
Whereas [the president’s] conduct in this matter is unacceptable for a president of the United States, does demean the office of the president as well as the president himself, and creates disrespect for laws of the land.”

Don’t you believe, Senator Feinstein, that the actions of the current President, George W. Bush, fit this category and are therefore eligible for censure?

Please support Senator Feingold. I hope that you do support him, and that you will say so soon. It will be a grave disappointment to me to know that you do not support the censure of this President when you supported the censure of President William Jefferson Clinton, a President of your own party whose actions, while obtuse, were certainly neither dismissive of Congress nor high crimes and misdemeanors.

Thank you for your service to Californians and to the United States of America. I am proud that you are my Senator.

Sincerely,

<blockquote>The Stuff you want in an indented citation box …</blockquote>

Works similarly for all supported tags — you need that forward slash when ending a tag.
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Mike B – Are you saying to shut off , I need to follow it with ?

Whatever you do, don’t hit the link 54.

Jane, you should kill that entry. It goes into some void in the EPU or something.

We need to come up with a nickname for Feingold that sounds nothing like Big Russ. Big Russ reminds me of Little Russ which reminds me of rancid mashed potatoes.

I like, The People’s Champion, Russ Feingold.

I am going to try this again.

Mike B – To shut off a href=”" title=”" I need to follow it with / a href=”" title=”"?

Feingold = Hero

For a link, enter like this:

<a href=”http://www.cnn.com”>This is the CNN entry point</a>

“This is the CNN entry point” displays as a link, then when the user clicks it, they go to cnn.com.
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Thanks

I think I fixed the unclosed tag and dreaded emoticon problems.

Jane, whatever you did, it turned off the emoticons-the ones on this thread and on the previous, and that is WAY FINE BY ME. I hate those silly things. Don’t know about the closing tags things, and I’m not going to experiment on that one.

warning: this turned into a semi-rant. You are warned.
I cannot believe what has happened to my party. I mean, was there something in the water? How did a whole generation of elected mainstream Democrats get a ravenous taste for eating shit? It’s like these people love to take it but can’t dish it out. Why can’t I go up against people like that in every day life? I guess ’cause they’re all hiding under their desks most of the day.

Suppose I were a Dem office holder. Suppose, just for a second, for illustrative purposes only, that I thought Feingold’s censure move was a loser tactically -but I agreed that is was justified based on the facts as we know them (and I would agree, since we are assuming, for illustration sake only, that I do have a functioning brain -just go with me on this here, a little bit, OK?)

I still wouldn’t attack the guy in public. And after the Bushites went out and lied and smeared their asses off on Feingold (sorry for the image, there), I would go after them, not Feingold.

The miserable reckless serial liar Cheney said Feingold’s censure showed he was against the President monitoring foreign terrorists, and that it was tantamount to declaring Bush the enemy. Well, why did the Dems criticize Feingold rather than go after Cheney for lying and smearing and distorting and defaming again? The dumber Presidential Scotty lied and smeared as well… why not contront him about that?

I don’t understand these mainstream Democrats. Why don’t they just sit in front of the cameras and drool on themselves and make stupid faces. It would show a similar level of self-respect and dignity.

There is a Feingold dedication third post in and at the beginning there’s A Request From Liberty

There they are again. Starting at 48, EPU! Everything from #48 is linked. I can only post this because I used the reply feature instead of just scrolling down to the comment box.

If the base comes out of this adoring Feingold but despising all the other Dems who sold him out, who gains? It’s truly tragic. Virtually all of these guys wouldn’t know true leadership if it smacked them in the face.

EPU #57

close with “a” only (no href etc) since it is an “a” tag

“Let everyone sweep in front of his own door, and the whole world will be clean.” – Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

Westgpc – In furtherance of the campaign to never (ever, ever, ever) refer to the corporate media as the “mainstream media” or “MSM,” there is now a new campaign not to refer to Dem’s who lack a spine as well as a moral comopass as “mainstream.”

It belittles us, marginalizes us; we are mainstream. Call them false dems, or something else, but don’t give them the middle ground.

The words do matter. Don’t let “them” define you or us or what we stand for.

This goes for all of you. Otherwise, you’re all off to remedial blogging camp this summer.

All joking aside, I don’t consider myself, or my views, or 75% of the views expressed on FDL, to be anything other than mainstream.

Anyone on this blog (and others like it) who refer to “them” as the mainstream are just perpetuating Repug, Neonut Orwellian spin.

Dana — not getting that effect with IE 6.0 in Win2K. Are you using Firefox perchance?
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Everything links to “This is a test” at 48. I’m only able to type here because I cliked on “Leave a Response.”

Dana, I don’t have that problem, and I don’t see what you are talking about. 48 on which thread? What “they” are you talking about?
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a href=”http://www.yahoo.com/â€>This is another test

Apologies in advance if this screws things up.

Dana – I haven’t gotten that either – I got it on my FDL page after “Leave a reply.”

I will stop testing for the evening. I am still trying to figure out, as 71 shows, the suggestions on getting it to shut off.

p.s. MikeB I am using Firefox, and I don’t have the problem that Dana reports. (oh, I am using the next-but-last (maybe?) version of FF- (1.0.5) I never downloaded the newer version because initially there were problems with it, and then later, I forgot to update.

EPU: thank you. I understand your reasoning. Same reason I never call Bushites conservatives, only reactionaries.
But I got to memorize this myself: corporate media, corporate media, corporate media… corporate media… OK, I think I got it.

Now, need a name for those dorks. “Shit Eating Democrats”? The SEDs, howzzat sound?

What should we call “them”? droolers? Any suggestions would be welcome.

As for a nickname for Feingold, I propose “Forward Feingold” (Forward is the state motto). Or, how about “The Badger.” Fierce, straightforward, doesn’t back down, ain’t coy about it.

Valley Girl, This thread. See EPU’s “This is a test” post that he then follows with “How do you shut this off”? On my machine it’s comment #48. I think I’m going crazy. I’m using a MAC powerbook and I’m on Safari. Never happened before. All of your comments are linked to “This is a test.”–EPU. I’m CPU’d by EPU. I’m sorry. I’m interfering in this conversation.

Actually, 48 links back to this page, so it could be a created a perpetual loop of time and space distortion (otherwise known as feedback). It’s possible.

I realize Pussy Gnome Democrats has, perhaps, some sexist overtones, but that is the one I would go with. Ties in with not having a Phase II. :)

Evil Parallel Universe

We need a name reference guide at FDL

Heard a couple new ones for spineless Demos:

Nogonadacrats and Yoamommacrats

Apparently Safari on the Mac takes umbrage when links aren’t closed.
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Whatever you just did now, Jane, to get rid of that batch of underlined comments, worked! The underscores are gone from the subsequent comments. While they were all there, every time I tried to “Leave a Reply,” after I typed about 7 characters in the reply box (here) the entire post refreshed, with the Reply box blanked out.

Can we (commenters) all just agree to ignore the little instruction that sez: “You can use these…” and pretend instead that it sez: “You can’t use these…” at least until things settle down?

Oh, and Feingold rocks.

Nice work fighting the fires and minding the lake today, Jane and ReddHedd. Wouldn’t want your job!

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The Ides of March assumed a whole new identity after the events of 44 B.C. The phrase came to represent a specific day of abrupt change that set off a ripple of repercussions throughout Roman society and beyond.

Josiah Osgood, an assistant professor of classics at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C., said: “You can read in Cicero’s letters from the months after the Ides of March. … He even says, ‘The Ides changed everything.’”

By the time of Caesar, Rome had a long-established republican government headed by two consuls with joint powers. Praetors were one step below consuls in the power chain and handled judicial matters. A body of citizens forming the Senate proposed legislation, which general people’s assemblies then approved by vote. A special temporary office, that of dictator, was established for use only during times of extreme civil unrest.

The Romans had no love for kings. According to legend, they expelled their last one in 509 B.C. While Caesar had made pointed and public displays of turning down offers of kingship, he showed no reluctance to accept the office of “dictator for life” in February 44 B.C. According to Osgood, this action may have sealed his fate in the minds of his enemies. “We can see [now] that that was enough to get him killed,” Osgood said

Mike B – Can you post a “see spot run” instructional on closing href’s? I tried with your earlier one, but figure, why take chances playing around.

Jane: PLEASE KILL MY #48

It is not playing nicely with the other posts.

Now, of course, the underscores are back, after my recent report.

Oh well, technology will always win. And this time, no one died!

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That’s it. I’m in a perpetual loop. And all the spaces are contorted in the Leave a Reply section. Really sad now. I’m going to bed.

Dana, I am really used to the usual old thing at FDL (Haloscan), where you scroll down to the comment box to type a comment. Maybe you are used to some other format, where there are comments within comments? Just an idea. Anyway, based on my prior (FDL experience) I would not have clicked on the link in #48 to leave a comment. I’m sure all of this will be worked out in time by our savvy ones.

Ah, better now.

Oh Oh

I remember two more

Gutlessacrats and Spinaltapacrats

Okay on my browser there are neither underscores nor links. I’m using firefox on Windows XP. What is everyone using that this is happening to?

EPU – I think “Vichy Dems” works quite well. Short and to the point.

It is not happening to me this evening really, but it did happen earlier on IE.

I dunno, I think you all are being too hard on DiFi for not supporting censure, just because she did for Clinton. I mean, back then censure was a move to defuse impeachment, which the opposition party was pushing for hard. We don’t have that now, so we shouldn’t be criticizing her for not supporting censure.

Instead, we should be criticizing her for not supporting impeachment! </snark>

[Since sarcasm never conveys well in text, let me make it clear that this was intended to be sarcastic.]

Copy the link from #59 above to the clipboard, the entire line. Then paste into the comment box and and change the address (URL) and the public text as desired. That’s exactly what I’ve done below and if it works in this comment, it should work for you too:

This is the CNN entry point

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Safari on Mac OS-X.

And it’s wierd how it comes and goes without offending comments in between. Is there some kind of mirroring of comments, where there are multiple versions, in some of which Jane has removed the string of offending comments and in others the offending comments appear?

I mean offending to the format (like producing the underscores, or in the previous thread, strikeouts) not offensive.

Well that was a disaster.
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I like Vichy Dem’s, but I think it is a little too obscure. The French association is damning though. Nah, too obscure.

Ed Helms on the Shit Eating Democrats political strategy:

Ed Helms
Daily Show:
I got mugged the other day… and this bum was beating me with a bottle. And I said, you know what? I’m going to sit back and wait for him to accidentally hit himself with the bottle. Sure enough, he did! I mean, I was unconscious, but I think I won that battle.
from:
http://atrios.blogspot.com/200…..0073591942

Actually Mike, your link is working fine for me with no ill side effects.

Although the link itself is not working – I meant the side effects thing.

Let’s see if we can link to DailyKos.

If this Kos link works, follow the directions on #59 above.

Copying and pasting is out though.
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Lovely new site Jane and Christy – good luck with the kinks that always come with such changes!

It might be good to create a thread specifically for folks to test out their html skills so they don’t have to worry about messing up the current discussion – or pick an earlier post to send everyone to for testing – then maybe a few of our html gurus could volunteer to give pointers there as well.

FWIW, I am NOT having problems. I am using FireFox 1.0.5 browser on a PC- Windows XP but it is an old version of XP 5.1.

Is this the tech thread?

All roads lead to Rome as the saying goes.
I remember during Clinton’s presidency, the press scewered him over an open pit. When Bush came to office, well, he has had a honey moon of sorts for 5 years and counting. I was deeply disappointed that there was no “payback in the cards.” The low ratings now befalling our Commander in Chief are not because of the press but inspite of them. There is no longer a monopoly on the news thank god! The internet, the newspapers, magazines, and word of mouth distribution have allowed some wiggle room. Over time, the true underlying bastardization of the Administration has accumulated in people’s minds. When the press “seemed” more liberal, the democrats relied on the press for its cues for action. Today the democrats have come to expect the “finger” from the press. Hell, the press has its own problems. Now they are essentially being held hostage by threats of jail time for printing any secrets. What is left? Everything the Bush administration has done has become secret. We do see the monopoly in today’s news programs with republican talking heads. They are essentially marionettes
for the powers that be. That is essentially what has happened to the Russ Feingold’s censure resolution. It was literally dismissed in one day’s time. Boy, when the monopoly and the abuse of power becomes the name of the game, it falls on those excellent lawyers that continue to go after them. And I am sure glad the blogs are starting to fill the abyss the mainstream press has created by default.

How about MillyVanillycrats

Many DINOs do very convincing lip syncs

Y’know, just plain “ASSHOLES” is working for me right now.

csmask–LOL. I just tried to post and suddenly the whole thing went poof and I looped back to the top of the page. TeddySanFran seems to have a similar problem. Valley Girl–I am used to the FDL–for months! I never try to post a comment by linking. Always used the comment box and hit submit. Maybe this will all go away soon. Back to your thread about Russ and the Vapors. End of tech. woes.

If things get any worse real fast we could have another terra tack.

increasingly sloppy children

MikeB #99 the link works fine for me. And, cut and paste of text does too. And, we’ll see, maybe the html too:
http://www.dailykos.com/

Paul Hackett and the Daily Show just completely skewered the spineless Democratic leadership. Beautifully done.

I looked at the page source for comment #48, and it’s definitely bad HTML. There’s no closing </a> tag at the end of the link, and the next one is the closer of the “permanent link to this comment” for #49, after the <div> tag boundaries. I’m guessing that Firefox and IE recognize that it’s bad and decide to close off the link tag at the &lt/div>, but Safari gets screwed up by the seriously incorrect HTML.

Safest thing for now would be to wipe out the contents of #48, and fix auto-closing of tags when Jamie gets a chance. (It was Jamie, right? Apologies if I’m remembering the name wrong.)

Gonna sleep

Speak no evil
Hear no evil
See no evil

Horseassacrats

Tech thread

this is only a test. results to follow…..

Dana- what brower and type of computer are you using? (Not that I know much about that) just that TSF was using one of those Mac things with some Safari thingy I’ve never heard of– and had problems. Is this a Mac problem? Not to say that I love Bill Gates, but right now he’s PC.

siun says:
March 15th, 2006 at 7:05 am
It might be good to create a thread specifically for folks to test out their html skills…

You can go here:
http://www.w3schools.com/default.asp

They have a nice HTML tutorial, and a ‘Try It Editor’ for testing. But the problems some people are having are caused by their browser and/or OS.

Error 404 – Not Found
Sorry for the inconvenience but I could not locate that page

ccmask- got this when I clicked on your link in #112

SAN JOSE, Calif. — A federal judge on Tuesday said he plans to order Google (GOOG) to hand over some of its customer data to the Department of Justice after the government scaled back its request.
U.S. District Judge James Ware said he would review the plan to make sure it isn’t too burdensome to Google and doesn’t create the impression that search engines could become tools for government snooping. His final ruling is expected soon.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/n…..OE=TECISVA
preznutsnoopy

Feingold Censure Move May Give Bush a Boost on Security Debate
March 15 (Bloomberg) — A Democratic senator’s attempt to censure President George W. Bush over his eavesdropping authorization is getting a warm welcome from unlikely sources: the Bush White House and the Republican Party.

Lucky me, I hit the trifecta

Error 404 – Not Found
Sorry for the inconvenience but I could not locate that page

ccmask above is what I got when I clicked on your “lucky me…” link in #116

still testing–here is the link for #117 above

Vgirl: I’ll do it the old way

Preznut hits the trifecta for the third time!

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..p;refer=us

Error 404 – Not Found
Sorry for the inconvenience but I could not locate that page

Same error for 116/ 117 above. I clicked the 118 link.

LOL–I give up if 120 is a no go! I was at a tech seminar all day but they didn’t cover this stuff…..

getting a warm welcome from unlikely sources: the Bush White House and the Republican Party.

ccmask- 119 link works just fine. Off to beddie byes now.

What am I missing? Are y’all copying external links from FDL and pasting them back into FDL? Why?

Okay—I’ll lock up &turn off the lights in our new place before I go…….

Sorry Bullmoose, we have to close up for the night.

Why, look at the time!

It’s — what, 7:39 am!~

g’night all…..

Someone broke in and stole all our smiley faces….

The General is offering book reviews again.

http://patriotboy.blogspot.com…..6807482683

Dude, it’s BullGoose.

and Safari on OS X is wonky still.

Thank you Jacqrat.

I deleted EPU’s evil parallel link. Is that better for the Safari folks?

BTW — anyone have a head count on Feingold? I’m making a sidebar box.

not only does he give ladies the vapors The DLC is smaking him too (Marshall Wittmann, a senior fellow at the Democratic Leadership Council in Washington) another “ex-republican” at the DLC

“Feingold Censure Move May Give Bush a Boost on Security Debate”
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/…..p;refer=us

Jane,

Hope this xfer works out. I’m a Safari folk, and the HTML weirdness caused by EPU’s humorous clippings aren’t there anymore.

RE: 131

YES! Thank you, Jane.

And you are most welcome, BullGoose.

Here’s the flaw in using the comment number to reference an earlier comment. When our hosts delete a comment, all following comments move up one number.

Looks like there’s still value in using commenter’s name and date/time stamp.

RGB — Good point I won’t delete comments any more, I’ll leave them and put “deleted by site owner” or “troll” (which I usually do anyway).

HEY PEOPLE!!! CALL OR EMAIL YOUR SENATORS NOW AND TELL THE TO SUPPORT FEINGOLD’S CENSURE PROPOSAL!!! LET’S SHOW THEM WHAT LEADERSHIP REALLY IS!!!

Jane…has any one told you recently how much we love you?

How about ‘ fishy’ democrats?

Rhymes with ‘ Vichy’ and associates with the xtian Taliban as well. (The fish symbol.)

These ‘ lay down misere’ dems like the two Joes and Hellery, who are all holes for sale by the look of it are a disgrace. They need hard targeting.
Long live Fitzer the spritzer, fine wine and Feingold and full speed ahead – damn the torpedo’s!

re: Headcount on Feingold.

I read Dana Milbank’s story from tomorrow’s WaPo and he said 2 – Harkin and Feingold.

Any way the clock can go off of Zulu and back to PDT?

Scaredy – Crats!

;>)

J & R:

There is no reason in the world it should take almost three minutes for your page to download and another 70 seconds for comments to unload at 1:33 a.m. PDT! Good luck with these guys.

That being said,

Another of the last days of the Democratic Party has just passed. Like so many other recent ones it was inglorious. Like some here had predicted, the only Dem in the senate with a spine was shot either in the back or in the face by other members of his party.

Do you people get this? Russ Feingold just got shot in the face by over half his bros and sistas (Dems) in the senate.

Stop whining at Greens, Independents and unaffiliated young people. Throw off the last vestiges of your addiction to corporate money.

Why do people who continue to believe there actually IS a Democratic Party hate America?

Bush is an outlaw. He is proud of it. Feingold called him on it on the floor of the U.S. Senate. I watched Monday, and it made me proud to be an American.

Since then, the Dems have sent out a dozen testbots to see whether it works better to shoot Feingold in the back or the face.

Maybe late night here wed/thurs could propose:

Waht’s best for Russ from the most dead political party in the USA since the late 1840s, back or face?

Jane- Getting trashed by Malkin (The Cockroach Queen) is a badge of honor.

Man, Aravosis is on fire!

http://americablog.blogspot.co…..-stop.html

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..17282.html

I thought this was interesting, not that it’s brand spanking new or anything, but of interest.
(Hope I didn’t break anything by posting a link!)

All Democrats have to do is remind people that the FISA court was begun while Democrats were in charge of Congress in 1978. That provisions in the act provided for instant suveillance to begin of suspected foreign agents or terrorists, after which all that any administration had to do was appear before the FISA court, several days or two weeks later, and justify their pre-emptive action to the court judges, and get a retro-active warrant issued. Bush decided not to do this. Bush broke the law.

Now, for some bizarre reason, the Bush administration is trying to get rid of entirely the retro-active warrant provision contained in FISA. In fact, based on Sen. Frist’s actions, the Bush administration is trying to totally bypass the FISA court, thus negating FISA entirely and literally telling Congress that the Bush administration will conduct wiretapping and other illegal surveillance whenever they want, wherever they want and against whomever they want…without any warrants at all.

And the Karl Rove talking point that Democrats don’t want the Bush administration to conduct surveillance of potential al Qaeda terrorists just doesn’t fly. The Democrats, once again, passed FISA in 1978, so that legal means could be employed by any administration to catch foreign agents or terrorists before they could do any damage to our country…with legal oversight in place so no administration could pull another Nixon on all of us.

Many Americans understand this. Sen. Feingold understands this. Other high-level Democrats don’t. They must believe that by remaining silent or immobile, that Bush will stop what he is illegally doing.

Bush must be stopped. Bush must be censured. And hopefully, Bush will be impeached, along with Cheney, before they shoot anymore holes in our Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Thus, Sen. Feingold’s censure motion is perfect and at just the right time. And how do I know it’s right? Just look at Tuesday’s coverage in the right-leaning mainstream print media. Front-page material, one would think. A Senator calling for censureship of a sitting president. However, few, if any, of the major papers ran it on the front page. Some ran it inside. Many didn’t run it at all. Damage control by the right-wing news media?

I consider the censure motion to be pre-impeachment. Anything to throw the Bush administration off it’s totalitarian, thuggish, fascist stride.

And if some high-level Democrats don’t understand this, then they don’t deserve to be high-level Democrats much longer. Debate is essential in any Democratic society. A debate requires two sides. Let the debate over the censuring of Bush begin. And any Democrats unwilling to participate in the debate over the obvious illegal surveillance activities of the Bush administration should not even think of running for office again as a Democrat. These Democrats don’t deserve to be recognized, nor honored, as Democrats. Any of these so-called Democrats are just as un-American and un-patriotic as the Republicans with which they are aligning.

Thus, I believe that Sen. Feingold, in offering his censure motion, has not only done a great service for our democracy, he has also done a great service for the Democratic Party. Shortly, all Democrats will know who in the Democratic leadership is with us and who is against us. (Of course, we already know where Lieberman falls, against fellow Democrats and with the un-American, un-Patriotic Republican slimeballs).

Thank you, Sen. Feingold.

I can only assume my worst fears.

corporate sponsers are now going to play boths sides of the playing field

they are going to sponser democrats, and there will be just one party with two differant names

obviously lieberman has drunk the kool aid, I know this is going to be unpolular, but I believe obama is drinking too.

there are wolves in sheeps clothing in the democratic party

this is the ONLY reason the censor bill is getting flak from democrats

it is OBVIOUS the public wants this and democrats critisizing the move and saying it’s somehow missplaced are drinking corporate koolaid

period

the power of jeeesusaah.

R2K

So Reid is now grandpa. Yet a few months ago he was better than sliced bread. Okay.

I thought one of our complaints is there is no coherent message from our party. I would say it’s hard to have a coherent message if you don’t let others know before bringing something like this forth.

As much as I love Feingold, I think this was done poorly.

Flame away.

The meme of “incompetence” is absolutely accurate and is a good start for the Dems. This Administration is going to become the very definition of incompetence. But if the Dems stop at “incompetence” then we get the Kerry argument of the last election–I can do this wrongheaded, evil, false-premised war better. Hilary is already running, apparently, on this plank. I am convinced that the only practical first step, in 2006, is to vote a straight Democratic ticket. Get the Repugs out!! Period!! But, if we end up, in 2008, with two candidates arguing about who can run this evil warmongering foreign policy better–I’m not sure I can stomach a vote for either candidate. The voting public keeps being forced into false choices. Last time around it was the media who manipulated Howard Dean out of the picture. Dean was offering a real choice. So, apparently, is Feingold.

BullGoose-sorry for the misspelling :)

I just found out Reid voted for Bill Clintons censure during the 106th Congress, Senate Resolution 44, yet waffles on Russ’ motion on the Chimp…Harry no longer has my support-I want my flowers back

A caller on Washington Journal had this to say wrt Google.

Go-Ogle…thought that was pretty deep.

Every day it becomes more and more apparent that the Dems really are just a different flavor of Republican. When it gets right down to it, they are coming from the same political mold: Do whatever it takes to get into office, then do whatever it takes to keep that office.

Beyond that though, it’s really all about the corporate dollar. Until we can get some real campaign finance changes made, the corporations will always have the control. Most corporations sponsor politicans for two reasons: 1) They will push the corporations issues, and 2) They won’t do anything that could possibly bother the companies stockholders.

So that gives you what we have now…The CCC. A Completely Castrated Congress. That’s all we will have until campaign financing is radically overhauled…though obviously there is 0 chance of that happening since those that would change it are the ones that stand to loose the most.

I’m just looking for an excuse to have hope at this point. Feingold is a start, but he’s one man in a sea of shills.

OfT and I apologize. I’m working with a group of bloggers in NC to help promote our progressive candidates and remove the Goopers from office. One of our bloggers interviewed Rep. David Price and it is on DKos this morning. It is one of Rep. Price’s first forays into the blogosphere. If you get a chance this morning, will you drop by and leave a comment and if you feel it deserves more notice, please recommend the diary. Thank you. Anglico’s DKos interview with Rep. David Price (D-NC)

Maybe smilies are too big for bluehost to handle.

You mean I can’t do a smiley face anymore? :-) Well, I guess I can go with the group on this. Still seeing censure being talked about on the news cycles so that is fine in my book. Really don’t care at this point what the other dems say, just hope Feingold keeps talking about holding Bush accountable. That will get through to the public.

Job of the Day for the FDL Brigades:

1) Censure Support: you know what to do. Work the phones, etc. Call senators.

2) Media Pushback: Call/write NYT about the issues Aravosis raises. Talking point: Poll prove blogger reader opinions are in the mainstream of public opinion.:

http://americablog.blogspot.co…..-stop.html

Write Byron Calame, the NYT ombudsman.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/…..index.html

Hit WaPo over its false reporting of public opinion. See these links for references. Talking points: most Americans want the White House to get a court order before wiretapping Americans. (hat tips to Glenn Greenwald)

http://glenngreenwald.blogspot…..tless.html

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI…..index.html

http://www.surveyusa.com/50Sta…..7Broke.htm

PDF Warning:
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/…..022706.pdf

Write to our friend Deb Howell:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01958.html

EPU #104
Perfect! Works for me.

oy! :roll:

Wilson, #161
That was good! A clear pic, like we need from the Democrats.
Seriously, about the wimpiness of the democrats at this point in time. I am truly hoping that they will find their spines. There are some good democrats in the mix. One thing Feingold did on this censure move is that it is calling out all of them to finally take a stand on something. It will be a lot clearer picture when they have to vote on this.

The Republicans are scared about this. Just the news this proposal is getting must terrify him. A few months ago and this call to censure the President would have been a blip on angry talk show radio programs. Now, it’s national news. Why? The public knows the president DESERVES IT.

I applaud Feingold: it’s a balanced approach. Should the President be impeached? Maybe, but the fact is the votes aren’t there and Republicans would *really* have a field day with that. A vote to censure? Americans are probably thinking to themselves “big deal,” it’s a nice slap in the wrist so the President knows he’s screwing up.

Democrats should be jumping on this. Continue to call your Senators. We should be calling Congressmen too, demanding they create a motion to Censure the President.

Regarding censure, it reminds me of Murtha. Murtha reframed the Iraq debate. Feingold’s censure reframed the NSA debate. Given that the Senate Intel committee was rolling over, the debate surely needed reframing. Wonder where Bob Barr is on censure?

On another note, has anyone attended Drinking Liberally? I’m in Alexandria and was considering going to the Dupont circle one and checking it out.

Jane, Thank you! It’s all fixed. The evil link problems are gone. Great Day in the Morning. Back to your regular programming.

This is just a geek, testing which HTML tags work in the comment area…

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BTW — Has anyone here figured out WHY the Dem “leadership” did not just on the Censure bandwagon ? There HAS to be a reason we are not aware of. How can they be so CHICKENSHIT with a 36% popular wacko acting as dictator ?

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Debbie Stabenow still isn’t sure what she thinks of censure, and Carl Levin is still waiting for an investigation to see whether the president broke the law.

If you didn’t see Boston Legal last night, find a copy. James Spader’s character (Allan Lewis) gives such a fiery and passionate speech about the lies, mistruths and unethical behavior of this Administration that it made me jump from the couch and yell triumphantly at my TV (scaring the hell out of your girlfriend and dog in the process). Covered everything from lies on WMD, to torture, Abu Ghirab, Guantanomo, and, most importantly, illegal wiretapping. It was brilliant…so much so it may have restored my faith in primetime network television.

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