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		<title>By: American Psycho</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40280</link>
		<dc:creator>American Psycho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is the above photo a recent one of Jean Schmidt?????&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Lobstergirl</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40281</link>
		<dc:creator>Lobstergirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This discussion between Brad DeLong and John Harris is interesting.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2005/12/astroturf_vs_gr.html&quot;&gt;http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/.....vs_gr.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This discussion between Brad DeLong and John Harris is interesting.</p>
<p><a href="http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2005/12/astroturf_vs_gr.html">http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/&#8230;..vs_gr.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: odograph</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40282</link>
		<dc:creator>odograph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with other observers who say it’s all about page rank.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I found Froomkin for the first time when looking for a real breifing, sure, and (mis)typing “whitehouse briefing.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It only took  me a second to realize that this wasn’t the real briefing, but that I liked it.  I imagine that the drum roll is coming from folks who made the same mistake, but DIDN’T like it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think the WaPo is crazy if they give up top page rank just because some other folks demand it.  I mean geez, when you’ve got top google rank, you run with it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with other observers who say it’s all about page rank.</p>
<p>I found Froomkin for the first time when looking for a real breifing, sure, and (mis)typing “whitehouse briefing.”</p>
<p>It only took  me a second to realize that this wasn’t the real briefing, but that I liked it.  I imagine that the drum roll is coming from folks who made the same mistake, but DIDN’T like it.</p>
<p>I think the WaPo is crazy if they give up top page rank just because some other folks demand it.  I mean geez, when you’ve got top google rank, you run with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayne</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40283</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Agh, I HATE to go to bed at night.  I might have to switch to Pacific Standard time!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Dig that first comment by cinnamonape.  I think the entire establishment media has a credibility problem; they fail to see their position from the perspective of the public or from that of the court as public informers.  NOT WHITEHOUSE MOUTHPIECES.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;cinnamonape is right to point back to the Appellate Court decision — but we, the public, should read that decision more carefully.  Judge Tatel put one helluva lot of effort into documenting his concurrence.  &lt;i&gt;There’s surely a substantive reason for this.&lt;/i&gt;  Perhaps a revisit of the decision is anticipated in the near future.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In any case, I especially dig this bit from Tatel (emphasis mine on my favorite bits):&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;IV.&lt;br /&gt;I conclude, as I began, with the tensions at work in this&lt;br /&gt;case. &lt;b&gt;Here, two reporters and a news magazine, informants to&lt;br /&gt;the public, seek to keep a grand jury uninformed.&lt;/b&gt; Representing&lt;br /&gt;two equally fundamental principlesÂ—rule of law and free&lt;br /&gt;speechÂ—the special counsel and the reporters both aim to&lt;br /&gt;facilitate fully informed and accurate decision-making by those&lt;br /&gt;they serve: the grand jury and the electorate. To this court falls&lt;br /&gt;the task of balancing the two sidesÂ’ concerns.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;As James Madison explained, Â“[A] people who mean to be&lt;br /&gt;their own Governors must arm themselves with the power which&lt;br /&gt;knowledge gives.Â”&lt;/b&gt; See In re Lindsey, 148 F.3d 1100, 1109&lt;br /&gt;(D.C. Cir. 1998) (quoting Letter from James Madison to W.T.&lt;br /&gt;Barry (Aug. 4, 1822), in 9 The Writings of James Madison 103 &lt;br /&gt;(Gaillard Hunt ed., 1910)). Consistent with that maxim, Â“[a]&lt;br /&gt;free press is indispensable to the workings of our democratic&lt;br /&gt;society,Â” Associated Press v. United States, 326 U.S. 1, 28&lt;br /&gt;(1945) (Frankfurter, J., concurring), and because confidential&lt;br /&gt;sources are essential to the workings of the pressÂ—a practical&lt;br /&gt;reality that virtually all states and the federal government now&lt;br /&gt;acknowledgeÂ—I believe that Â“reason and experienceÂ” compel&lt;br /&gt;recognition of a privilege for reportersÂ’ sources. &lt;b&gt;That said,&lt;br /&gt;because Â“[l]iberty can only be exercised in a system of law&lt;br /&gt;which safeguards order,Â” Cox v. Louisiana, 379 U.S. 559, 574&lt;br /&gt;(1965), the privilege must give way to imperatives of law&lt;br /&gt;enforcement in exceptional cases.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Were the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national&lt;br /&gt;security or more vital to public debate, or had the special&lt;br /&gt;counsel failed to demonstrate the grand juryÂ’s need for the&lt;br /&gt;reportersÂ’ evidence, I might have supported the motion to quash.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Because identifying appellantsÂ’ sources instead appears essential&lt;br /&gt;to remedying a serious breach of public trust, I join in affirming&lt;br /&gt;the district courtÂ’s orders compelling their testimony.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, baby.  The establishment press continues to mess with both the public’s need for the truth; certain members are very nearly accessories to the crime or crimes.  If obstruction continues by way of the press, if a deliberate breach of the public continues, there is a point at which the press will be unable to escape both prosecution and its own irrelevance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;Le press sont mort, vive le blog!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agh, I HATE to go to bed at night.  I might have to switch to Pacific Standard time!</p>
<p>Dig that first comment by cinnamonape.  I think the entire establishment media has a credibility problem; they fail to see their position from the perspective of the public or from that of the court as public informers.  NOT WHITEHOUSE MOUTHPIECES.</p>
<p>cinnamonape is right to point back to the Appellate Court decision — but we, the public, should read that decision more carefully.  Judge Tatel put one helluva lot of effort into documenting his concurrence.  <i>There’s surely a substantive reason for this.</i>  Perhaps a revisit of the decision is anticipated in the near future.</p>
<p>In any case, I especially dig this bit from Tatel (emphasis mine on my favorite bits):</p>
<blockquote><p>IV.<br />I conclude, as I began, with the tensions at work in this<br />case. <b>Here, two reporters and a news magazine, informants to<br />the public, seek to keep a grand jury uninformed.</b> Representing<br />two equally fundamental principlesÂ—rule of law and free<br />speechÂ—the special counsel and the reporters both aim to<br />facilitate fully informed and accurate decision-making by those<br />they serve: the grand jury and the electorate. To this court falls<br />the task of balancing the two sidesÂ’ concerns.</p>
<p><b>As James Madison explained, Â“[A] people who mean to be<br />their own Governors must arm themselves with the power which<br />knowledge gives.Â”</b> See In re Lindsey, 148 F.3d 1100, 1109<br />(D.C. Cir. 1998) (quoting Letter from James Madison to W.T.<br />Barry (Aug. 4, 1822), in 9 The Writings of James Madison 103 <br />(Gaillard Hunt ed., 1910)). Consistent with that maxim, Â“[a]<br />free press is indispensable to the workings of our democratic<br />society,Â” Associated Press v. United States, 326 U.S. 1, 28<br />(1945) (Frankfurter, J., concurring), and because confidential<br />sources are essential to the workings of the pressÂ—a practical<br />reality that virtually all states and the federal government now<br />acknowledgeÂ—I believe that Â“reason and experienceÂ” compel<br />recognition of a privilege for reportersÂ’ sources. <b>That said,<br />because Â“[l]iberty can only be exercised in a system of law<br />which safeguards order,Â” Cox v. Louisiana, 379 U.S. 559, 574<br />(1965), the privilege must give way to imperatives of law<br />enforcement in exceptional cases.</b></p>
<p><b>Were the leak at issue in this case less harmful to national<br />security or more vital to public debate, or had the special<br />counsel failed to demonstrate the grand juryÂ’s need for the<br />reportersÂ’ evidence, I might have supported the motion to quash.</b><br />Because identifying appellantsÂ’ sources instead appears essential<br />to remedying a serious breach of public trust, I join in affirming<br />the district courtÂ’s orders compelling their testimony.</p>
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<p>Yeah, baby.  The establishment press continues to mess with both the public’s need for the truth; certain members are very nearly accessories to the crime or crimes.  If obstruction continues by way of the press, if a deliberate breach of the public continues, there is a point at which the press will be unable to escape both prosecution and its own irrelevance.</p>
<p><i>Le press sont mort, vive le blog!</i></p>
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		<title>By: tech9</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40284</link>
		<dc:creator>tech9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;this guy is a fucking tool.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this guy is a fucking tool.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40285</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;justwondering –&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ah, the DREGs sounds like a &lt;i&gt;marvelous&lt;/i&gt; group.  Not even necessary to know the meaning of the acronym — the name evokes a pleasant combination of the bohemian and the street-wise…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thanks for your apocalyptic hospitality!  When I met Mr. K8 (I took a job at the company where he worked) he was known throughout the place as the “Electro-Mechanical Whiz.”  Got a special citation for building prototypes that wowed ‘em.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He’s saved us a ton of money by being able to repair just about anything.  A genius in the spatial, geometric, right-brained universe.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Me?  I’m the linguistically oriented one, analytic, very left-brained.  Put the two of us together and we make one amazing brain.  Each of us, alone, is terribly lop-sided.  So we’ll arrive at base camp together, a complementary set — ready to help out!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sounds like you had fun tonight.  Good for you!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>justwondering –</p>
<p>Ah, the DREGs sounds like a <i>marvelous</i> group.  Not even necessary to know the meaning of the acronym — the name evokes a pleasant combination of the bohemian and the street-wise…</p>
<p>Thanks for your apocalyptic hospitality!  When I met Mr. K8 (I took a job at the company where he worked) he was known throughout the place as the “Electro-Mechanical Whiz.”  Got a special citation for building prototypes that wowed ‘em.</p>
<p>He’s saved us a ton of money by being able to repair just about anything.  A genius in the spatial, geometric, right-brained universe.</p>
<p>Me?  I’m the linguistically oriented one, analytic, very left-brained.  Put the two of us together and we make one amazing brain.  Each of us, alone, is terribly lop-sided.  So we’ll arrive at base camp together, a complementary set — ready to help out!!!</p>
<p>Sounds like you had fun tonight.  Good for you!</p>
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		<title>By: zennurse</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40286</link>
		<dc:creator>zennurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;White Chocolate Wurmser?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Moose Munch Matalin?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Lemon Libby Sorbet?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yummy, let’s eat ‘em all!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Sad news about Du upthread, condolences requested.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>White Chocolate Wurmser?</p>
<p>Moose Munch Matalin?</p>
<p>Lemon Libby Sorbet?</p>
<p>Yummy, let’s eat ‘em all!</p>
<p>Sad news about Du upthread, condolences requested.</p>
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		<title>By: Thesaurus Rex</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40287</link>
		<dc:creator>Thesaurus Rex</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Heavenly Hadley.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Okay, now I must stop.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heavenly Hadley.</p>
<p>Okay, now I must stop.</p>
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		<title>By: Thesaurus Rex</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40288</link>
		<dc:creator>Thesaurus Rex</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, no, his is definitely Chunky Chimperor.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Rummy Raisin.  Mmmmm.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, no, his is definitely Chunky Chimperor.</p>
<p>Rummy Raisin.  Mmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: JRW</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/12/13/pauvre-tinkerbell/#comment-40289</link>
		<dc:creator>JRW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bubbleboys flavor might be Iraqi Road ?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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