I know you want to see the movie, Jane. But you should know in advance that it’s disturbing and distasteful — particularly the finale.

Bobo is, as we all know, an idiot. But whatever political points Spielberg may have wanted to make in this film get lost in the rush of thriller-porn imagery.

Jane,

Pay no attention to Harry about this not being up to your high standards. I took it as fun Saturday night post.

Happy Holidays

So I am working while reading a few blogs and I absently-mindedly tabbed back to this post, but I thought I was reading Informed Comment.

When I saw “Eric Bana is FUCKING HOT” my thought was, “Wow, I didn’t know Juan Cole was gay.”

Just had to post that.

yes, i’d much rather base my review on something like ‘eric bana is hot’…er i mean fucking hot…er..i mean…nevermind..

Still checking the Time site.

Found this: http://www.time.com/time/magaz…..80,00.html

To help us make the selection, TIME asked prominent individuals, including previous Persons of the Year, whom they would choose

JAMES LOVELL 1968 One of three Apollo 8 astronauts, pioneers on the epic quest for the moon

I suggest special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald. In this age of cover-ups, political intrigue, corporate greed and not knowing whom to believe, it is refreshing to see a person who searches for and uncovers misdeeds, unencumbered by any partisanship.

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I also nominated Fitz, but I see that the Time/ Chrysler poll does not include his name. Corporate America is probably scared of Fitz.

Jane ditto on Brooks – shameless toady and guardian of the bubble membrane.

Jane – even if Bobo doesn’t know about SPOILER ALERTS your previous point still applies. whats his face is FUCKING HOT. get that large box of corn and CHOW DOWN.

Let me guess…these meetings Condi had in Romania, they were at night, right? Lots of cameras, but no mirrors?

Well, as they say: bats of a feather…

Frank P. – That’s why they sold Dreamworks, right, b/c of its huge number of successes. Which fits into one of my favorite topics, genius, and supports my position that genius is pretty damn fleeting if it ever exists (also proved by the fleeting genius of Super Bowl coaches, but that is another story, as well as NeoNut mythmakers and sellers).

Looking for the new Novak article, I found this from October 15, 2004: “Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald questioned Rove about his contacts with journalists in what a source familiar with Rove’s situation said was his third appearance before the grand jury.” I forget if someone was still looking for this info. But if Novak thought October, 2004 was his third appearance, I’d go with her. Also, the article reminded me that Libby gave Cooper a waiver while he was still holding out on Miller.

That truly vile piece by rice reminded me of bush’s speeches. Nothing new. A repeat of things already said. I fear they believe, truely believe, that if they say it enough, it will become reality.

Pure, unadulterated evil the lot of them.

A truly vile piece in the WaPo by Condoleeza Rice. She thinks that the notion of sovereign nations has passed its best-before date.

I’m going to go out on a limb and suggest that we commenters are full of rage and fury for the wingnuts who have usurped human dignity and life giving habitat for their own personal gain and deification. Damn them!

The fight is with the tyrants of malfeasance. May we be allowed a modicum of excess in our views, even if we don’t necessarily agree.

I’ve been checking at Time.com and they have all the content for the new issue up, but not the promised Novak piece. I guess we won’t see it before tomorrow morning.

Damn. I come by here again looking for a post that will save us all some sanity and all I get is people being all too human. And that’s okay. And hot. In its way. Surelly.

Valley Girl, I have been checking for Vivnovka too. ? What is up, I thought it was to be up ?

I’ve been checking time.com for the Novak tell-all. Not so far. But this one did strike me as ironic, to say the least. Romania has a long history of human rights violations, BTW.

http://www.time.com/time/world…..82,00.html

Why the CIA Detainee Issue Dogged Condi in Europe
Despite an enthusiastic welcome in Romania…

“The acceptance by the Romanian people of the American military presence is the most precious thing to have happened in the relations between our two states,” the pugnacious Prime Minister, Traian Basescu, said during the visit, before promising that Romania’s tiny contingent in Iraq would stand by the U.S. as “long as it takes.”

Harry,

Go take an airborn fornication at the lunar surfaces.

Bobo Brooks is the banal face of GOP evil…

Jane

Who is a Brooks fan? Most conservartives that I know don’t agree with him or like his views – they just think he is useful, for some reason.

Brooks favors the cartoon – he probably thinks a more nuance portrait, while ok for him and a few other, is dangerously confusing to less complicated minds.
The joke is him – everything is always the opposite of what he says.

Read his columns before the Iraq war – You cannot prove he did not believe what he was writing, but you can suspect it. You bet. You bet.

I think if someone is going to post about “standards,” they should at least manage to spell all 14 words of their post correctly.

“I’ve been dying to see Spielberg’s Munich, and not just because I am shallow and Eric Bana is FUCKING HOT.”
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That was why I was planning on going. But the reviews I’ve seen haven’t been very good, and after “War of the Worlds”, Spielberg’s going to have to work pretty hard to get me into the theater.

Karen:

I OT vented about that in the last thread. I’m still trying to keep my blood pressure down over it.

Absolutely no respect for anyone other than themselves.

Isn’t Harry the one who wanted to restrict who could comment?

Me3-

Those who can, do. Those who can’t are critics.

This one surelly is not up to your high standards.

Harry… Let’s see your blog, show us your stuff, that you put up several times a day, keep fresh, and educate/entertain hundreds of people.

Then you earn the right to complain. You have no idea how hard her job is, how little money she makes from it (none)… And you are knocking the fact she is human.

Go find a boot and put it you know where.

David Brooks is a living, breathing turd in the swimming pool.

Yup… They syndicate him here in my local paper and I have to send him an extra nastygram every week. He would make my life easier if he would just STFU!!!

He’s in the “goophead” list of major kool aid columnists in the Media Resources link above.

If I may.

Jane.

This one surelly is not up to your high standards.

http://fusioner.proboards60.co…..1131129004

^^^ Media Campaign ^^^

Sorry I am late today… But at least I showed. I am seeing excerpts of the Frank Rich column up at Raw Story, if anyone sees it out from behind TimesSelect I would appreciate a link.

Thanks all :))

David Brooks is a living, breathing turd in the swimming pool.

Fitz doesn’t hide behind TimesSelect.

Thank you Grey Lady. Less is more. Brooks is a bore. Slutsberger is a whore.

Jane we adore.

I just read in the dailykos that BushCo is shipping Iraq-slain US armed forces troop’s bodies to their parents, shipped as freight on commercial airliners. Is this the dignity they get after serving Bushboys “noble cause”?

http://www.10news.com/news/5504608/detail.html

Waiting for ya, Fitz!

Amen to Eric Bana.

fyi, Eric Bana played Hector, opposite Brad Pitt’s Achilles in Troy.

But back to Mr. Brooks and his inability to see “evil” in those he supports, even though he wants us to distinguish true evil from those who simply did evil things after experiencing it in repeated cycles.

Much of the American support for Bush’s war against Iraq is premised on the idea that the other side is/was pure evil — not just people we didn’t like or agree with — but evil, part of an “axis of evil” that then became conflated with those — also described as pure evil — who destroyed the WTC while committing suicide.

What Brooks argues is that we should continue to assess the world-wide use of “terrorist” methods as unmitigated evil, for which “war” and “see, I’m a war president” are the only rational responses. And since “wars” are fought against nations, the only question is which nations should we make war against and in which order?

I haven’t seen the movie, but if “Munich” has relevance to Iraq, then Spielberg may be suggesting that we go back to September 12, 2001 and ask, “is there another way to examine what is happening, and another way to think about how we should respond?” How should we respond to groups and persons who hold the belief that it’s acceptable to commit suicide, and murder thousands of innocent people, while proclaiming that ‘God is Great!’?” And the toughest question of all, “how much different are these people from what we would condone once we decide to go to war?”

This question forces us to think about the relationship of individuals to our client states in the Middle East, about our presence there and how locals react to it, and so on. Other rational responses might have focused on religious education and its funding, exposing and decrying extremist views in any religion, questions of church/state separation, looking at what motivates those with extreme views, and a thousand other factors.

The point is, if we had asked this question, and thought about it for two seconds, it’s inconceivable that the principal answer would be: “lets go invade a secular country with no connection to these people who flew airplanes into the WTC.” It wouldn’t even be on the list of things to do later.

But that kind of question is extremely difficult to raise during “war,” because any discussion can easily be mischaracterized as unpatriotic. Rove would demonize it as Democrats offering shrinks to the terrorists. But it’s still the right question, and we have paid a heavy price for the fact that few had the courage to raise it back then, or even now.

Brooks would again prefer that we not ask it by reinforcing the view that we are dealing exclusively with pure evil, and then leap to the non sequitur that only unthinking war is the answer. But that unthinking approach can only lead to evil.

Jane! So among other things, you provide an all-important babe alert service! I’m a little freaked out that I don’t know who Eric Bana is. But The Google is my friend. He is pretty fucking hot.

“What Viveca Novak Told Fitzgerald”

By VIVECA NOVAK

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http://www.time.com/time/magaz…..80,00.html

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“Editor’s Note: By mutual agreement, Viveca Novak is currently on a leave of absence.”