caught this from buzzflash:

That, of course, appears not to have happened. And that, Lechliter argues, is where Fitzgerald comes in. HereÂ’s how: Lechliter points to a now well-known February 6, 2004 letter to Fitzgerald from Deputy Attorney General James Comey, in which Comey defines the special counselÂ’s authority. The letter says that FitzgeraldÂ’s authority is “plenary and includes the authority” to investigate “violations of any federal laws.” But it also says something that’s gone pretty much unnoticed: that Fitzgerald has the authority to “pursue administrative remedies and civil sanctions … that are within the Attorney GeneralÂ’s authority to impose or pursue.”

That sentence is the key, Lechliter argues. Because it very clearly states that Fitzgerald, who for all practical purposes has been granted the powers of the attorney general, can do more than just prosecute criminal acts. He can also pursue “administrative remedies” within the attorney generalÂ’s authority. In this case, Lechliter says, the administrative violations Fitzgerald could recommend “remedies” for include the improper — though not illegal — sharing of classified information.
this included the “right to know” violations of the sharing of info.

http://tinyurl.com/99qb2

Fiery dogs —

I am a new dog. An old one, actually, but I need to learn some new tricks to use this site. To wit:

As usual with anything that uses software, my first question has to do with mechanics: what is a thread? in particular, is there (in effect) one thread per thematic picture on the FDL site? Or, can one define several threads (and hence a new thread) within a conversation? This latter seems more desirable and natural but therefore, since this has to do with software, is probably impossible.

Is there a new thread or is Sweet still the current post? Please tell me…..

is this the last post?

I take back what I said about Armitage being more of a “stand up” guy; he was up to his eyeballs with Iran Contra and is clearly in deep with the military complex:
http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind……_Armitage

Thanks, Me for your continued cheerleading!

M

“Armitage seems more of a “stand up” kinda guy who’d go to Fitz and fess up but still be reluctant to be outed…(at least not yet.)”

Very valid point.

“I don’t see Hadley doing that, esp. since he’s become the admin’s point person and wouldn’t want to embarras the Preznit.”

True. My theory only works if Hadley is cooperating with Fitzy. He HAS gone Clintonian with his “It is what it is” comment in Asia. FWIW.

Maggie (in case your still with this thread),,,
Since we’re speculating…
Armitage seems more of a “stand up” kinda guy who’d go to Fitz and fess up but still be reluctant to be outed…(at least not yet.) I don’t see Hadley doing that, esp. since he’s become the admin’s point person and wouldn’t want to embarras the Preznit.

If Richy’s the man, I don’t think he did have anything against the Wilsons, really, but the “conspiracy” had already been set in motion…plus State and DOD were pitted against eachother and vying for attention and leverage, so he might have been trying to play along… and now, for his loyalty, he’s having to slog it out in the private sector, on the board of Mantech, etc. http://mantech.com/

But it seems irrefutable to me that he is too busy, his case load is too large, he’s splitting time between Washington and Chicago, when this is the most important investigation in my lifetime.

Wrong. First… Fitz already wrapped up most of the investigation a year ago. He knows all… Development of evidence does not require a lot of work… You set up the play, sweat the perps.. And flip them. It takes time as far as like days or weeks for the heat to get to their hearts… But it’s not a huge caseload.

He has a incredible staff of extremely competetent assistants… Any one of which would be perfectly capable of picking up any slack, or even the entire case should something “bad” happen…

It’s only been plodding along, cause these perps take time to break… Judas Miller… 85 days after a fight that went to the appellate court and was turned down by the supremes… Most of that time was just waiting… Fitz worked in Chicago while Judy sweated a decison.

They just got done wrapping up a big case in Chicago, so he actually has more staff available now than he did 3 months ago.

Ok… He has his case now. He has a GJ now… He is presenting his case… The whole case… To the GJ. This is it peeps… He’s done.

One thing for sure, Frist’s 08′ hopes lit up like a soggy log and Santorum looks no better. I know in my home state of MA that the wingnut radio folks are pushing Mitt Romney as an 08 hopeful but he’s had his ass handed to him pretty well by the deeply Dem MA House. Is Romney on the radar screen in the rest of the country?

EPU and NorskeFT:

I certainly hope you’re right.

I think Shrubya breaks down well before his term ends.

Agreed. When we speculate Rice or McCain or Giuliani, I really think we are talking about the 44th President of the United States.

Of course they’ll inherit the Iraq fiasco. If it’s McCain and he refuses to consider withdrawing, things could get interesting in 08…..

new thread

I would definitely vote for Guiliani if he ran if he can explain how WTC 7 came down.

Jay– last I read– Romney can’t get re-elected– I think he’s a big nothing– and Frist is done– no chance- zero– he’s as inept as they get.

The Uber Goopers want Allen- or Brownback—can’t see either of em doin well nationally..

Goopers don’t have much bench depth.

M

It COULD be Armitage. I just can’t think of a motive he would have to screw the Wilsons.

Armitage worked with Powell during the Gulf War. Wilson was the de facto ambassador in Iraq at the time, i.e. one of the good guys. And Armitage got plugged in to Chimpy early on. Why would he stab Wilson in the back?

Hadley on the other hand was Dick the Prick’s “eyes and ears” on the NSA. Why did Rove “report” in to Hadley by email about his conversation with Cooper? I think it is possible he was the conspiracy coordinator, ordered by Dick to do so, along with Libby as his first lieutenant.

Maybe Hadley complained about the job assignment and griped “casually” to Booby in an “offhand manner?”

This still doesn’t explain why Hadley would call Fitzy, UNLESS he already has a ‘cozy’ friendship because he is counting on lots less jail time than Libby. Even that would not explain why he felt the need to tell Fitzy something he was likely to never find out.

Come on Marc, Dims? Odd it’s the Dems who come up with the real plans and agenda’s to help all Americans year after year, it’s the Dems who know and see through the bullshit the Repugs try to pull the wool on America, it’s the Dems who are known as the intellectuals and they lead the science and tech corridors. The Repugs destroy, the Dems create.

My ex almost father-in-law, a business owner, was a Repug, but we constantly said he was so smart he was stupid. He had a hard time argueing against my logic and REASON.

The Repugs may be smart but they are stupider than hell and it shows. The Dems policies are constantly beaten down by the wingnuts and then further marginalized by the wingnut personal presscorp, thereby mainstream America has no clue the true work the Dems try to do.

It does a huge disservice to call us Dims, because sir you are calling me dim in the process. I have an old fav saying: I can be a bitch, but I’m not a Stupid Bitch.

One thing for sure, Frist’s 08′ hopes lit up like a soggy log and Santorum looks no better. I know in my home state of MA that the wingnut radio folks are pushing Mitt Romney as an 08 hopeful but he’s had his ass handed to him pretty well by the deeply Dem MA House. Is Romney on the radar screen in the rest of the country?

I think that McCain is the best bet for goopers- out of a litter of even less desirable choices– we’ll see.

I would love for em to make a dumber choice- but I’m afraid that it will be McCain.

make that “principle”

Norske, what makes you think McCain’s not electable? He’s a MSM darling which is a HUGE asset, he’s a war hero so he nails down vast swaths of red automatically, and he’s been at the forefront of the “stop the torture” debate with Vader and the reality-based community will get behind him for his principal there. He took bullets for Bush and clearly swallowed his pride (shamefully so) and I’d never vote for him, but he’s gonne be the guy.

Big day in college football as most ranked teams are playing for bowl spots..

The fighting Ducks of Oregon take on the lowly Beavers in a civil war battle for a BCS bowl..

RW says “check it out!”

Maggie:

Well, the way Hadley’s waffling in Korea, you may be right about him being Woody’s man. Still, Armitage ain’t off the hook here. I’ll admit the pieces of the puzzle in terms of timing don’t fit together for my little brain now (but who cares if Fitz fits them!), but our friends at Dow Jones seem to think Rich might be the source: “One official among those who knew of Ms. Plame’s identify is former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage.”
http://online.wsj.com/public/a…..in_tff_top

Jay — forgot to mention that I agree on the breakdown.

ralphbon,

Jest remember that the political calculus will have changed for 30 years if we ken keep another wingnut from ascending ta the SCOTUS. The whole fascist political manufacturin’ process is crumblin’ before our very eyes and the old corporate media structure of big print and cable news is gone forever (at least as we have known it). The only thing that ken save the Republican Party as we know it right now is another Scallia on the SCOTUS.

Neither Rudy er McCain is a threat ta get elected ta school board anyplace.

It’s about time for big money to come to the table and place their bets for next year’s elections..

Do they put it all on “gooper” hoping for goopers to pull off a win despite their problems- or do they put an equal pile on both nags.. These are delicate negotiations- in which promises need to be extracted and payoff insured.. they can’t be done at the last minute– it’s about time to lay down the cash- and goopers know it- their time horizon is VERY short.

Jay,

I don’t agree with you on McCain, but I have had the very same thought on Booby. In fact, when I heard, it was my first thought that it was made up out of whole cloth.

Don’t forget that there was a serious attempt to bring Bush 41 before an international court for war crimes in the Gulf War after he was defeated. Obviously, it did not happen.

ralphbon – Let’s just say we disagree. I lived in NYC most of my life, and was there when Rudy was mayor, and stand by my earlier posts.

Actually the same was also said by Repugs about Clinton in ‘92, and I was working in the House at the time.

The big difference between Rudy and Chimpy or Clinton is that their skeletons were only whispered about. Most of Rudy’s are not just speculation, they are fact, and they are already out in the open.

Maggie,

No, Dims is not a typo. It’s what I call the Democratic party. I refer to Republicans as Pugs.

Got double-dipped on the refresh too…dagnammit!

I think McCain will be the next President. He’s already started posturing, and last night he was on Letterman expressing his concern for climate change…no I’m not kidding. He recently visited the Yukon Territory and the tundra’s melting etc.

Wild-eyed conspiracy theory regarding Woodward. There was no Mr. X until after the Libby indictment. This new storyline is an intricate fabrication in which the most devious political minds have war-gamed every possible outcome and the scapegoat will become apparent soon.

rwcole, as much as I love the idea of wringing every last drop of political blood from the Bush Presidency, I’d rather see the nightnmare end with Bush stammering and sweating in front of the International Criminal Court. The sooner he’s ousted the closer we’ll be to restoring American credibility in the world.

I think Shrubya breaks down well before his term ends.

Rice’s aides must have read your post – she’s now denying it.

Bush doesn’t even want to come back to the United States. Once he gets back, goes to Crawford for Thanksgiving, there will be Cindy Sheehan gettng publicity camped out in the ditch there. He would resign right now–it’s no longer fun, you know–but the old gray men won’t let him. Daddy’s tried to straighten him out, but Bushboy is mommy’s substitute husband, and Bushboy wants nothing to do with Daddy. Talk about Oedipal.

The people who wound the windup mechanism on bush’s back are in their own trouble and aren’t winding him up. And the country is in a mess!

Say “Hello” ta a Gore/Schwietzer administration.

Unless the Goopers purge the relgious wingnuts and write off the “solid south” McCain has NO CHANCE of either appointment to VP or nomination in ‘08….in either case the Dems hold the key. They ken block his appointment ta VP and they ken beat ‘im like a drum in ‘08 if he ain’t got the southern fried fascist vote.

EPU:
>Any scrutiny of Rudy would quickly weed him out as a viable candidate.< </p>

The same was eminently truer for Bush in 2000 and, in megaspades, 2004.

I live in NYC and hate Giuliani and never bought the Great Leader persona bestowed on him post-911. The McCain mystique is comparable bullshit.

But look at the how much effort it’s taken to unmask the infinitely less leaderly Chimpster (a job still far from done). With Cheney and/or Bush gone, Americans will be in a state of demythologization-fatigue and will lack the energy to pick apart a Rudy or John.

And demonization from the Christers won’t hurt nearly as much as imagined: Republican leaders will be ready to marginalize them the way the DLC in the 1980s successfully marginalized the progressive wing of the Democratic party. The Christers, in the end, will hold their noses and support a socially moderate Rethug for the same reason I’ve held my nose and voted for Clinton, Gore, and Kerry lo these many depressing years.

EPU

Good point on the political future of the warmongers.

Marc

“Dims”

Is that a typo?

Count me in the camp that McCain is not a viable VP replacement either.

One point those thinking he might do it if asked (and I don’t think he will be, but if he is), What’s in it for him?

To stand by Chimpy’s side for 2 or so years, and then retire. He won’t get to keep his Senate seat. It would be career suicide for him to do it. Sure, he once made nice with Chimpy, but he has been burned pretty bad since, and I don’t see him doing it again. Plus, he doesn’t need Wingnut money or an offer of a job post politics. There is nothing they can offer him.

As for “duty to country.” McCain has more than served his country, and he can continue to do that as a senator.

Won’t happen, even if perchance (no chance) he is asked.

Norske—Yeah this is an interesting puzzle for the dems- I don’t think they’ve made up their minds yet about what to do…I think they’re working to find some dirt that will make a fillibuster seem less blatantly political. There are some promising areas- including his promise to recuse himsefl from a Vanguard action-which he didn’t do…Dishonesty would be a great framework to weave the fillibuster on- everyone understands it.

This may have already been posted, but in case it hasn’t, Rice spokesperson Jim Wilikinson says it’s not Rice

WASHINGTON (AP) – Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was not the senior Bush administration official who told Washington Post editor Bob Woodward that White House critic Joseph Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA, a Rice aide said. Saturday.

http://apnews.myway.com/articl…..J35G0.html

I think McCain will be the next President. He’s already started posturing, and last night he was on Letterman expressing his concern for climate change…no I’m not kidding. He recently visited the Yukon Territory and the tundra’s melting etc.

Wild-eyed conspiracy theory regarding Woodward. There was no Mr. X until after the Libby indictment. This new storyline is an intricate fabrication in which the most devious political minds have war-gamed every possible outcome and the scapegoat will become apparent soon.

rwcole, as much as I love the idea of wringing every last drop of political blood from the Bush Presidency, I’d rather see the nightnmare end with Bush stammering and sweating in front of the International Criminal Court. The sooner he’s ousted the closer we’ll be to restoring American credibility in the world.

I think Shrubya breaks down well before his term ends.

Someone said not too long ago that Condoliar is an academic who would be provost of a university had it not been for Bushboy elevating her. She doesn’t relate to African Americans, other than an occasional cursory gesture. She pretty much ruined her chances when she appeared at the Broadway theater, laughing and joking, days after the Katrina disaster. Then, the next day, concentrating on buying thousands of dollars worth of shoes for herself when people were dying from lack of water on the Gulf Coast. She then gave the lame excuse the as Secy of State, home disasters don’t concern her.

Taylor, agree.. I can’t see Condi. I CAN see Georgie trying it… but a VP replacement has to be approved by both Senate and House.

Actually, I would rather see the status quo continue until after the 06 elections. I would rather see the VP marginalized.

By the way, when I saw a picture of Cheney here the other day I did not recognize him! He looks terrible. He has either gained a bunch of weight or has heart failure, or both. Even if it is weight gain that is not a good thing with his heart history. I wouldn’t be surprised if his health, really, does him in. After his last “small” heart attack he lost a bunch of weight but he looks fatter than ever to me now.

Regarding McCain. My hubby, a die hard independent, likes McCain. And I think there are a bunch out there like my hubby. But I can’t see McCain taking the VP spot if Cheney leaves. I CAN see the republicans pushing for him… especially if the polls are getting even worse and they are afraid the public will throw them out in 06… but I can’t see Bush or McCain doing it.

Could be wrong. Might depend on the timing. Or the situation. I do believe McCain would take it if he felt there was a national crisis, i.e. Cheney gone, Bush weakened, impeachment talk… danger for us in the world to be so weak…

And to be honest, as angry as I am with McCain over the “hug”, I believe he would be able to bring some stability to the WH in the event of a crisis.

Now, I’ll post this and it will be sure to bring a “new thread”, given my timing.

Grandma Jo

We still gotta keep stickin’ the Dems with a sharp stick on the Scalito nomination…he is the biddest immediate threat ta the future of our country, the Repugs can’t survive through ‘08 without big help from the SCOTUS.

M

I see a couple of little problems.

If Armitage testified, it was in the spring or early summer of 2004. You’re suggesting that if he testified, he either testified falsely or he forgot that he told Booby.

Do you think either of those scenarios is likely, even if he got pissed off later on?

Had me spittin’ coffee, Norske. LOL

Warden indeed.

Taylor– I agree with you that this is- or soon will be- out of Clusterfuck’s hands..

He will be TOLD- by the REAL leaders of the gooper party what to do and when to do it.. He ain’t gonna win this one by screamin “But I like strawberry– he’s gonna get vanilla and like it..

I think that we are very close to the come to Jesus moment.

Every pilot knows that there is a moment of no return on every take off.. In this case- it’s the State of the Union speech.. Any meaningful change will HAVE to happen before that moment– or it’s too late– after that- we will have the primaries approaching at a dizzying rate- and then the general election.. if dems win both houses–the balance of the Clusterfuck presidency will be a series of high profile investigations which will not only kill his presidency- it will lead off into VERY dangerous territory..

Clusterfuck will be given an offer that he can’t refuse– that’s what these guys do for a LIVING!

I didn’t say he wa
ould be elected President…I said he would be appointed and confirmed as our next VP. He ain’t threat ta NObody in ‘08 and he ken play the Kabuki of tough on terists.

By her recent comments, even Condi knows she’s a no-go. Though the flattery heaped on her at the time, (geeze, I forget which brown noser actually did it) went to her head, visibly, I might add.

Gosh, I nearly choked. For a moment there, she was able to forget what a quagmire she and her boss helped create. She should never forget.

Rice for VP? No way. Never happen.

Rice is a part of the Traitorgate gate story. Whether or not she is criminally involved is irrelevent. Anyone from the Executive associated with the lies that brought us to war, and it was lies that brought us to war, has no political future. And I think it makes sense to believe that Rice was more than associated with those lies – more a main player, and still a shiller. She is tainted as much as anyone else.

Any replacement VP has to approved by both houses of congress. Does anyone actually see that happening in the Senate? The house maybe, but even there I don’t think it is a lock. Any politician reading the tea leaves and wondering about their own political future is going to know that anyone tainted by the lies of war is going to harm their own political career.

Further, there is the race issue, and this is still America, and although politicians won’t talk about it overtly, it will certainly be a factor in their vote.

McCain is palatable, biddable, he neutralizes the Dims, gives a nod to the Moderate Pugs and is the right grease to shove a Permanent Majority deeper down our throats. The telegraph line from Kennebunkport has been buzzing with McCain for at least six months now.

Rudy Guiliani doesn’t have a chance. He won’t play in Peoria, as the saying goes. He married his cousin, for God’s sake, his first wife, and said he didn’t know she was his cousin. He openly had affairs while a married mayor. He announced he was filing for divorce from his second wife and didn’t even bother to tell her beforehand. This kind of behavior isn’t popular in the Midwest if someone is aspiring to national political office.

And CONDI??!!! Are you kiddin’?!! The only thing she may be able ta get appointed to is warden of Abu Gareb.

D & Maggie:

Not yet ready to let go of the Armitage theory; he did testify early on from what I can see, and may, indeed been passing on gossip when he first talked to Woody… And then when he and Powell bailed/were pushed out after 04, he would have had an axe to grind since, at one point, he was after Rummy’s job (and Colin was naive enough to think he’d have another round at State).

Just after 9/11 on PBS, when asked what a terrorist is, he said “A terrorist is one who kills innocents for the pursuit of a political aim..” Gee, that would cover anyone who starts a war of choice, wouldn’t it?

Come on folks…McCain will NEVER be either appointed VP or nominated by the Goopers. Say hello to Vice President Rudy G.

Re Condi for VP:

In her dreams.

Senate confirmation hearings would bring up her incompetence and responsibility for 9/11.

The Republicans would bring it up.

The party of the Southern strategy, put a “colored person” a heartbeat from the presidency?

Taylor – Please trust me that Rudy is not electable. Kerik is only one part of the story. How about Judth Nathan, the mistress he carried on a seemingly open affair with in front of his children when married to Donna Hanover. Then there are all the wall street people he pissed off when he was the United States attorney for the Southern District of NY. And what exactly is it that Giuliani associates is paid for anyway?

And, that is just the tip of the iceberg. Any scrutiny of Rudy would quickly weed him out as a viable candidate.

Plus, I agree with the post that country is already post post 9/11.

Karen

I agree with your assessment of Rice for VP. I just don’t know if confirmation could be pulled off. Practically every southern senator voted against the apology for lynching. You just have to wonder what a Rice nomination would do to that constituency.

Karen Allen: I question how much input Bush will have into Cheney’s replacement. I think the Gray Men of the GOP (with Baker as their consigliere) are fed up with him. That was the signal I got from Scowcroft and Wilkerson.

Pacha: I lived and live just outside NYC so I know Giuliani is a scary guy. But even people who thought his role in rallying the country on 9/11 was overstated, revised their opinion upwards after the vacuum of leadership post-Katrina.

That’s how they’ll market him.

They haven’t finished milking GWOT for everything they can get. Quite the contrary, they’ve screwed everything else up so badly, it’s all they’ve got left.

As long as Rudy doesn’t have any more Kerik moments….

“Secretary Rice wasn’t Woodward’s source,” Rice senior adviser Jim Wilkinson said. Are they commenting on an ongoing investigation or aren’t they?

What does this imply about the fate of Republicans in the 2006 election? Well, we can only speculate given that the election is a year away and the Roll Call data only includes eleven elections. But just for fun, let’s project the seat swing based on President Bush’s current approval rating of approximately 40 percent. A naive model in which the relationship between presidential approval and seat swings remains constant over time projects that the Republicans will lose approximately 47 House seats in 2006. And under a few different specifications I’ve tested, the predicted loss is always at least 36 seats, and usually many more.

Taylor– many thanks- yep- that’s it– I pulled the stuff shown above and have now bookmarked the site..

Love, love, love the Irish nutcracker! Perfect.

Pach – Thanks for knocking down Rudy. He is NOT electable. Although for that reason I would like to see the Repugs nominate him.

Since I am in a redundant mood – The Rudy of 9/11 fame is not the real Rudy. He has a lot of the Wingnut hubris about him, even if he was mayor of NY, plus more than enough skeletons in his closet to have a field day with.

Muzzy–awesome find. Are you in the game?

M– Armitage also has not denied, but Woodward was coy and said he might have testified.

Weekly Standard
Woodward had, in writing “Bush at War,” impressive access to the people he promotes–to Powell and his deputy, Richard Armitage, to Tenet much of what his agency was doing, and to what went on in the meetings of the National Security Council, the realm of the president, Rice, and Hadley. Rumsfeld and Cheney were less helpful. Rumsfeld provided only an on-the-record interview, according to an aide. Cheney was not interviewed for the book.

Also, Hadley and Woodward were good friends, you know the uppercrust snooty crowd; and maybe Woodward was trying to protect him for the last two years. Hadley had also told friends that expected to get indicted

EPU

I take some comfort in your theory!

I love Fitzgerald. I also believe there is an advantage to the slow, steady pace of the investigation, making people squirm, etc. But it seems irrefutable to me that he is too busy, his case load is too large, he’s splitting time between Washington and Chicago, when this is the most important investigation in my lifetime. In any field of work, there are choices and trade-offs. Do you go for the best person for the job (even though he/she has limited attention to give) or do you go to someone who’s more available? In this case, I think it’s a decent trade-off because Fitz is so good. But it is a trade-off, and I’m hesitant to see all developments through the prism of Fitzgerald’s strategy. He’s too busy to be completely on top of everything, and some things will evolve by accident, not intention. Not sure where the Woodward developments fall in all this.

McCain – I don’t think he is electable. Unless he cut from the Wingnuts now on many issues beyond the war.

He is doing the honorable thing with respect to Torture, but that is just one issue. What about domestic issues?

The present ill will of the Country about Chimpy and the Wingnuts (and in this sense all the repugs), is that they don’t think it is on the right course, whatever that might mean, it certainly goes well beyond feelings about the war, how we got there, and traitorgate.

McCain needs to set himself apart, and I just don’t think he is doing it, or that he has it in him to do it.

RWC, I think this is the original blog for that midterm loss correlation:

http://www.brendan-nyhan.com/b…..nce_o.html

Kevin Drum pointed it out:

http://www.washingtonmonthly.c…..007520.php

Pickin Rudy would cause the snakehandlers to run away from politics in droves and force the goopers to abandon the coalition that has kept them in power. Won’t happen.

Going out on a limb here…but I’m sure the source for Woody is Armitage who “resigned” (what the heck is he up to now??).

Meanwhile here’s a blast from the past: Aug 2003 from Crawford: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news…..2-515h.jpg

Hey, M

Think Hadley. He’s gone Clintonian on the subject.

I don’t think Armitage would hate Wilson enough to do it.

Might be someone in the John Bolton camp, though.

I really think Rudy would make a very vulnerable candidate, and not just because the fundamentalist base dislikes him.

I was living in New York when he was elected, and before 9/11, people forget that New York was really, really fed up with Rudy, for cause.

All that shit will come out if he’s the nominee, and probably during a primary fight.

Its the double dealing that makes me want to throw up. The behavior of Ms & Mr. Run Amok and the whole lot of so-called reporters and their intentional role in propaganda dissemination under the guise of journalism is provoking a crisis of confidence in the veracity of the media.

Add to that the incredible story linked to on an earlier thread in Rolling Stone. This is an absolute must read.

http://www.rollingstone.com/poli…- player=unknown

Billions of taxpayer dollars spent on a calculated deception of us the taxpayer with direct evidence of the role of Judy Miller and others in the subversion of the truth and manipulation of the public through deceptive propoganda.

How should an open society respond when its government and media collude to use our money to deceive us to promote their narrow agenda? This looks like the beginning of 21st century fascism.

“Presidents with approval ratings below fifty percent during a midterm election have gotten hammered:

does anone think we can have legitimate elections in all precints?

I do not

Bush would never pick either McCain or Guiliani. He hates people who criticize him, no matter how mildly. If Cheney goes, he would pick Condoliar Rice. Bushboy loves to pick people close to him. He would love to say he chose the first woman vice president.

Condoliar never challenges him, never disagrees with him. Condi is his bitch.

the most disappointing thing I saw was McCain supporting Bush throught the campaign even though Mccain knew the failures at the presidents office concerning the precise intel we had before the attack on september eleventh and the complete lack of action.

But the whole Corrupt Republican coalition has been built on seizing and controlling the initiative, preemptively and aggressively. They don’t know how to play for time.

Anome or Maslow anyone? I won’t repeat my earlier posts on why the Winguts are done and can’t recover; too much redundancy on the threads already. But I do like being right :)

Although a little redundancy never hurt a thread:

History really does repeat itself – this is playing out just as McCarthyism did, when no one was immune from his attacks, and the accusations became ever louder and more outlandish, and everyone became the enemy.

If the Wingnuts got their political strategy from anyone, it is McCarthy. And once that veneer cracked he was doomed. Trust in history to repeat itself.

PREMATURE EVACUATION
Karen Allen

Oh yea, this got the biggest laugh out of me so far today Karen, and Monk’s newest pic. Keep up the great humor everyone, we need all we can get in these sad trying times. It’s like the surgeons in an operating room using humor to not only relieve the extreme pressure but to handle it.

I have your entire post copied. I recognized at the time how useful it would be to put wingers in a spot of bother in a diverse forum I frequent tied to my univ. alma mater.
So, thank you.
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Taylor

I agree with you about McCain. Never gonna happen.

Juiciani is another matter. I think he is dirty, but whether that will be exposed is open to debate.

Also, I don’t know if the Corrupt Republican Machine will be able to milk the 9/11 teat by then.

Muzzy– thanks– wish I had included a link– how the hell did you find it?

I play golf with several guys from the defense industry who know McCain well.

They say he’s a very ordinary guy- and not very bright– not very bright at all..

I have the strong impression that there are a lot of dim bulbs in the Congress. I promise not to mention Biden and Rockefeller. Oh darn.

Gore struck me as being smarter than most of them, he did sponsor some visionary legislation. He probably rubbed their noses in their collective stupidity too.

But I’ll say this for them: I doubt many of them would think that Sweden doesn’t have a navy because it has no coastline…..

Maggie–Thanks. I knew the first comment would be from a woman.

rwcole – here is the info from your previous post regarding midterms election results when the sitting president has an approval lower than 50% :

“Presidents with approval ratings below fifty percent during a midterm election have gotten hammered:

-Johnson in 1966: 49% approval, -47 seats;

-Ford in 1974 after Nixon’s resignation: 47% approval, -48 seats;

-Reagan in 1982: 43% approval, -26 seats;

-Clinton in 1994: 46% approval, -52 seats.”
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Goopers are suffering the consequences for years of servile support of an idiot.

They’ve now got two weeks to think things through- and read the writing on the wall..

I think we will see MAJOR changes by the State of the Union Address.

Very funny, Karen. Sensitive subject, though.

When I wrote “precipitous pullout”, I forgot the quotation marks — that was an actual quote from Duncan Hunter — on the floor of the House.

rwc-McCain’s shortcomings are our advantages!

McCain for President in ‘08!

OK, if it ain’t Dr. Rice or Big Time, how about Richy Armitage? That’s who Corn thinks it is and he certainly was in the thick of it back in June-July 03: http://www.thenation.com/blogs…..;pid=38162
It would also explain why Woodward would not be 100% sure if he testified or not to the GJ. And he’s certainly been laying low..

[i]One big news item that came out last Thursday that will likely go through however is the Fed?s decision to cease publication of M3 monetary aggregate statistics, including repurchase agreements (RPs) and Eurodollars.[/i]

http://www.financialsense.com/…../1117.html

Don’t know about y’all, but I haven’t enough money to buy enough gold to make a difference.

This is the kind of sneaky stuff still going on that disturbs me greatly. I tend to watch for what the MSM isn’t reporting and I think it’s significant. While there’s good news on the war front and a Democratic response to truth, the corrupt coalition is still working it’s black magic in the background.

thanks for that Joe Conason article, Bobby. Nailed it.

Didn’t anybody like my comment about the antics in Congress yesterday about the Iraq pullout?
PREMATURE EVACUATION

I’m not so sure about McCain in ‘08, even in the event Cheney “resigns”, and he’s tapped for VP.

Awright I’m going to say it again. No way the GOP puts McCain within a heartbeat of the presidency. This is the guy who fantasizes about being a latter day Teddy Roosevelt.

And Roosevelt, I’ll remind people again, got put on McKinley’s ticket to give it an aura of respectability, then became Prez after McKinley was assassinated.

Giuliani fits the bill (for the GOP) much better. Who cares if he’s a cross-dressing baby-aborting gay-loving fornicator? The cattle in the base will vote for whom they’re told to vote for. It’s Them against Us, after all.

I have no doubt that McCain thinks he’s on the fast track to the 08 nomination…..

I play golf with several guys from the defense industry who know McCain well.

They say he’s a very ordinary guy- and not very bright– not very bright at all..

In short- he has everything required to be a gooper nominee.

” A living symbol of the great constitutional role of a free press — to hold government accountable — has evidently degenerated into another obedient appendage of rogue officialdom.”

You see, I think that this was exactly one of the goals of this WHOLE conspiracy. These vicious scumbags managed to kill 2 birds with one stone. They prostituted the Press, and I don’t think that Joe Wilson was the only target either. I think it was the WMD operation at the CIA who kept getting in their way with the truth about intelligence. I think they wanted to blow the Brewster Jenning operation out of the water.

John McCain is about 69 years old. Compare that to John Murtha’s 73 years. Compare his values and ethics to John Murtha, too.

McCain fancies himself as a maverick Republican, but anybody can reign him in. What has McCain done other than be a son and grandson of admirals, and famous as a prisoner of war?

IMHO, John McCain is a dim light, easily manipulated. And he is very much in favor of the Iraq invasion, in keeping our troops there for a long time.

McCain got off the straight talk express when it became clear to him that lyin and dirty tricks beats honesty every time.

the most disappointing thing I saw was McCain supporting Bush throught the campaign even though Mccain knew the failures at the presidents office concerning the precise intel we had before the attack on september eleventh and the complete lack of action.

It’s a game of Clue where the players are allowed to lie about what cards they have in their hands– claiming to have Col Mustard when they don’t or to deny that they have Prof Plum when they do..

In other words- it’s a game of Clue that ya can’t win.

rw

I would agree with the statistics on the elections in 2006 IF we could be sure the votes were being counted correctly and IF the Repugs don’t steal another election. Look at all the “Jim Crow,” Laws that are being passed on southern states to stop poor black voters from voting!

It’s getting like playing an old game of Clue (TM).

Unka Karl in the Lincoln Bedroom with the candlestick.

Oh well- the WaPo insists on repeating the mistakes of the New York Times (plus adding a few new ones) in order to defend their watergate hero.

Today’s editorial defends Woodward and of course, misses the point. More and more the bigwigs in the mainstream media just dont get it- they are too chummy with those in power and are willing to trade hard-won credibility for access to the likes of Libby, Cheney and Rumsfeld.

Woodwards ceased being an objective investigative reporter long ago- instead, he has become a celbrity at DC Salon parties. Mathews, Woodward, Gergen, Blitzer, Mitchell- they all sound the same on TV because they ARE the same- they know if they “speak truth to power” they won’t be welcome at “power’s” next cocktail party.

And more of us will continue to seek our “news” elsewhwere. I don’t need to hear the corporate party line because I already know it.

I am very disappointed because the WaPo was one of the few mainstream news sources I still had a bit of faith in. The NYT prewar reporting and its refusal to fire that incompetent Miller, demonstrated that they have a conflict of interest when reporting on this administration.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02208.html

Woodward’s disgrace
He was once a great journalist, but his obsession with “access” turned him into a palace courtier and shill for the GOP.

By Joe Conason

Nov. 19, 2005 | Forced to reveal his strange secret about the Valerie Plame case, Bob Woodward has humiliated his trusting bosses at the Washington Post and exposed something rotten at the center of journalism’s national elite. By withholding critical information from the Post’s editors and pretending to be a neutral observer, Woodward badly compromised the values that he and his newspaper once embodied. A living symbol of the great constitutional role of a free press — to hold government accountable — has evidently degenerated into another obedient appendage of rogue officialdom.

With his relentless pursuit of “access,” the literary formula that has brought him so much money and fame, Woodward placed book sales above journalism. Boasting of his friendly relationship with the president who facilitated his interviews with administration officials, he now behaves like the journalistic courtiers of the Nixon era.

To those who have observed Woodward’s career since the glory of Watergate, including readers of his many bestselling books, the change in his role and outlook have long been obvious. For him, the cultivation of high-ranking sources is the very essence of journalism. And while there is no question that reporters owe a duty of confidentiality to their sources, it is also true that they owe candor to their colleagues and transparency to their readers.

Sadly, Woodward not only served as a silent accomplice of the Bush White House in its attack on Plame and her husband, Joseph Wilson, but went much further by publicly criticizing special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald’s investigation of that attack — and suggested repeatedly, up to the eve of the indictment of I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, that the investigation should be curtailed. Now, instead, his own admission of involvement may have figured in Fitzgerald’s indication Friday that he plans to call a new grand jury in the case.

Indeed, Woodward abused his position as a journalistic authority on intelligence and national security issues to denigrate the Fitzgerald probe. Last July 7, on National Public Radio’s “Fresh Air,” he claimed to know that the outing of Plame’s identity had created “no national security threat” and “no jeopardy to her life.” He went on to mock the case: “There was no nothing. When I think all of the facts come out in this case, it’s going to be laughable because the consequences are not that great.” He didn’t say then how he supposedly knew what consequences did or didn’t flow from the CIA operative’s exposure.

Ten days later, on CNN, Woodward told host (and Post colleague) Howard Kurtz that he didn’t think any crime had been committed. He went on to complain about how long the leak investigation had taken. “The special prosecutor has been working 18 months. Eighteen months into Watergate we knew about the tapes. People were in jail.” That kind of spin is more worthy of a Republican pundit than a Post editor (and of course Woodward never complained about the extraordinary length and expense of Kenneth Starr’s Whitewater investigation, presumably because the sources in that case were leaking to the Post).

Woodward reiterated his exoneration of the White House on Oct. 27 — and on that occasion, he told CNN’s Larry King that he knew the CIA had completed its own assessment of the affair and found that no damage had been done in exposing Valerie Plame Wilson.

Only two days later, however, his own newspaper reported that the CIA had performed no formal damage assessment — a process that doesn’t begin until after any criminal investigation is finished. And Woodward neglected to tell King’s audience that the CIA had originally demanded that the Justice Department investigate the leak because of its potentially serious effects on national security.

Those misleading remarks were only exceeded by his disingenuous statements about how the leak might have occurred. Denying that there had been a “smear campaign,” he assured King that “when the story comes out, I’m quite confident we’re going to find out that it started kind of as gossip, as chatter.”

Of course, Woodward knew then how the leak began, in very specific terms, and used his privileged position to help promote the Republican line. (For a full catalog of Woodward’s media misbehavior in this case, see MediaMatters.org.)

According to the Post’s ombudswoman, Deborah Howell, the public is now outraged over Woodward’s conduct. They are confused by his actions and unconvinced by his explanations, which are contradicted by the timeline of the investigation. Post executive editor Leonard Downie, who bravely engaged in a chat with angry readers on Friday, was reduced to offering testimonials about Woodward’s truthful character and bromides about his exceptional record.

“Bob Woodward never lied,” declared Downie. Yet at another point in the same conversation, the Post editor conceded that a reader was “correct” in saying Woodward had been “dishonest in the extreme” and “probably destroyed his credibility.” Those consequences of his “mistake,” said Downie, would have to be measured against “Bob’s exceptional record.”

So will the contents of Woodward’s next book on the Bush administration.

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“”Okay, here is one thing that really bugs me about Booby. When he goes on Larry King Live as part of a panel, he sits on Larry’s side of the desk next to him and pretends like he is Larry’s assistant interviewer.”"

under the table maybe things are going on . . . larry and bobby in a intellectual and physical Cabal News Network circle jerk????

sorry — ;-P

John Sidney McCain III (born August 29, 1936) is an American politician. Widely recognized as a maverick Republican, McCain has been a U.S. Senator from Arizona since 1987

Re: tipping point.

I think it started the day after the election.

I got to thinking that not too many arrogant bastards go to their graves without a comeuppance to Jesus moment. Humiliation is the flip side of arrogance and most folks don’t escape it.

One thought lead to another and I realized that Bushie Boy was going to be at the apex of his power & his life between election day and inauguration day. I confess I figured the downward slide would be slower than it has proved to be.

I did not watch the inauguration, but I read the speech, which was followed by a severely critical editorial by a Council of Foreign Relations guy on the Sunday after the inauguration. Big clue. Trouble in River City.

Who knew we’d be gifted with the Social Security Bamboozlepalooza tour? And three people being kicked out in CO for a bumper sticker?

Who knew we would find Terri Schiavo in our Easter baskets? Immediately followed by the death of a genuine religious hero (to much of the world)? Sure, the fact that JPII threw in the towel and refused extraordinary measures didn’t get stressed, but folks realized that there was some greatness in a little place in Italy not found in a place called Washington, DC.

Small things started happening and the body count grew.

Who knew summer vacation was going to bring Cindy Sheehan?

The rest, as they say, is history!

And THAT’S a legacy that won’t be pretty.

mc– McCain’s not that old as I recall..

He’s between a rock and a hard place. He knows that there’s a fair probability that Cheney will be forced out- and that he’s the gooper favorite to replace him…He HAS to salute the mainstream gooper flag right now– but if he goes TOO far- he’s got trouble in 08.. Watchin him squirm is one of the joys of current political life.

Pictures from McCain’s birthday cake photo op with Bush as the deluge swallowed New Orleans should come in handy, too.

Condensed version of an old joke.

Gooper Visitor to farm country notices a pig with only three legs- He asks the farmer “what happened to the pig’s other leg?”

Farmer says- OH that’s ol W- best pig I ever had– why that pig GOT ME this farm with all the things he’s done- he’s a damned fine pig”

“Yeah” said the visitory, “but what happened to his leg?”

“Well hell” says the farmer- “fine pig like that- ya don’t eat it all at once”.–

rwcole– As far as I know, Hadley has not denied being the leaker. If it is Hadley then at least by implication Rice was involved. She may not have committed the crime but Hadley worked for her.

and this fro Raw Story:

Libby then shared the information with Karl Rove, President Bush’s deputy chief of staff, the sources said. Wurmser also passed on the same information about Wilson to then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley and then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice, they added.

I’m not so sure about McCain in ‘08, even in the event Cheney “resigns”, and he’s tapped for VP. I read somewhere that he’ll be 70 or 71 this year making him 72 or 3 during campaign season.

The Dems would pound him on the age issue and rightly so. They could say health problems or generationally, McCain’s a step backwards. A powerful argument can be made that we need a fresh vision to lead this country, especially after all the new Republican fuck-ups that will occur over the next three years.

And don’t forget that image of McCain hugging Bush during the “04 campaign. That’s the death blow-embracing a disgraced president.

It’s important to not actually KILL- Clusterfuck– he’s now the goose layin golden eggs– just cut off his appendages and move the burner up to “simmer”…

We’ve got three years ta cook this goose– let’s not do it all at once.

“It wasn’t war protestors that brought him down- it wasn’t Fitz- it was a million dedicated little ol ladies with hate in their hearts.”

I’m glad to see the point being increasingly publicly raised that, whereas WE in the Great Unwashed are all supposed to overnight become these astute, self-reliant assessors and bearers of the consequences of risk, the pols will all be sure that THEY retire with every penny of the generous publicly funded pensions and comprehensive health care of which they will doubtless see themselves as “entitled.”

It would not surprise me to learn that Bush, for example, will get his lifetime free medical care, Presidential pension, gubernatorial pension, AND a bit of military retirement payments for his “service.” (maybe not on the latter, but, again, I wouldn’t be at all surprised)

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It’s getting like playing an old game of Clue (TM).

It’s a confusing tangled web of a conspiracy
where after the final curtain call we all will
sit back and weave the story with more actual
details. The conjectures here are just wonder-
full. Woodward was protecting someone way
high up in the food chain for 2 years. Who?
Fitz trip to GWB crim. attorney no ordinary house call.
Must be internecine cannibalism between the Chimps camp and Big Time cabal.
I place my bets that the hidden source that
Fitz now knows is in the WHIG group which
may lead to either or both GWB or Cheney.
The conspiracy engulfs them as hidden
plotters or leakers to the Press.
It’s all very delicious. If I were a turkey
vulture there’s going be a lot of road kill.

Has everyone noticed how well Clusterfuck’s campaign to move his poll numbers back up is goin?

Mornin All… ahh I love all the cleverness and chuckles everyone has provided already, and the day has only started.

And why is it that when I read about Booby Wayward strains of the old David Lee Roth song “Just A Gigalo” mysteriously wafts in the background?

Now we need a song to match The Courtesan Run Amok, and one for Condisleaza.

In the meantime now that I’ve caught up on the comments I’ll try to hit some of these linked articles.

Shit- every possible leaker has now denied being the leaker–ya can’t draw any logical conclusions from the statements of liars…

It’s all a bunch of shit.. We’ll find out soon enough. Sounds as if the WP is gonna find a way to leak the truth- despite Woody..

The executive editor has announced a policy of:

“any reporter who guesses what’s in my pocket can have it”

He’s probably also giving the reporters some broad hints– like “rhymes with “sadly”".

Personally- I would like to see goopers hang on to a one seat advantage in both houses- and continue to screw the pooch until she can’t sit down..gooperism as a state religion needs to be thoroughly discredited- so that it will never rise again..

Let em go re-invent themselves!

AP, 20 minutes ago:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200….._leak_rice

Aide: Rice Was Not Woodward’s Source

“…

In another development, a person familiar with the federal investigation said that Vice President Dick Cheney is not the unidentified source who told Woodward about Plame’s CIA status.

The vice president did not talk with Woodward on the day in question, did not provide the information that’s been reported in Woodward’s notes and has not had any conversations over the past several weeks about any release for allowing Woodward to testify, said the person, speaking on condition of anonymity because the federal probe is still under way.”

What “day in question”? I thought all we knew was “mid-June”. Also, doesn’t this denial sound way too elaborate?

Goopers are in panic mode. Why?

Froomkin had a link a while ago to an obscure statistician who has computed the correlation between presidential job approval and loss os seats in midterm elections. I have lost the link- but the work was VERY interesting.

If Clusterfuck remains where he is in job approval– goopers should expect to lose 60 seats next year– he needs to rise back to 49% for them to break even if history holds.

The study allowed for the fact that re-districting has made for less competitive races..

Goopers don’t know whether to shit or go blind!

Maybe this has something to do with her and
Hadley. Hadley also did not comment; and he is her man, or she is his woman. Take your pick.
Also, they both enjoyed vacationing with Libby
at the Aspens Institute, where all the leaves change in “clusters.”

I remember seeing Condi on the tube just before Fitz was about to lay down the law on Libby. She looked nervous, uncomfortable, and a bit guilty. But I always thought it was my imagination getting the best of me. Who knows?

Okay, here is one thing that really bugs me about Booby. When he goes on Larry King Live as part of a panel, he sits on Larry’s side of the desk next to him and pretends like he is Larry’s assistant interviewer.

What hubris.

“Goopers have screwed the pooch so often lately that the poor pup is about to give birth to weasels”…best line of the month, I’m gunna send it in ta John Stewart.

Keep the faith and pass the ammunition.

rwcole: I think the real tipping point was Katrina, though it had been building up.

The social security abolition debacle gave the Dems a chance to disciver that they could actually fight, hold a line and stand together, so in that sense, it was a watershed event.

But Katrina showed the general public that the man behind the curtain was not a Great Stron Father but a stumbling, pampered, incompetent fraud.

That ultimately changed the way all subsequent events were viewed and interpreted.

“Tipping points” may be overrated, anyway. Before Katrina, most of the public concluded invading Iraq was a bad idea and a majority began to believe that the case for war had been made deliberately falsely. That was not a public event “tipiiing point” but a kitchen table conclusion across the country.

Whatever the case, the situation has clearly turned, and the Corrupt Republican Party of the Elite weakens by the hour. And yes, I agree, all of these things impact the odds of Alito’s confirmation.

Apropos Booby:

“An ostentatious man will rather relate a blunder or an absurdity he has committed, than be debarred from talking of his own dear person.”
‘Joseph Addison’

One quick point: Booby W doesn’t talk to the lower-downs for his books. His access starts near the top and goes to the top. So those thinking that an under-secretary or deputy is the first source are probably barking up the wrong tree.

shorter rw: when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!

When the history of the Clusterfuck administration is written- the tipping point will be recognized as Clusterfuck’s stubborn insistance on privatizing social security..

It wasn’t war protestors that brought him down- it wasn’t Fitz- it was a million dedicated little ol ladies with hate in their hearts.

rwcole: that’s called playing for time.

But the whole Corrupt Republican coalition has been built on seizing and controlling the initiative, preemptively and aggressively. They don’t know how to play for time.

That’s why they are taking wild swings and launching furious, doomed assaults, all the while losing material and thereby controlling less and less of the board.

Great post at 8:20 recole!

Redd

It would seem logical to assume that Fitz would not go to a new GJ unless he felt he had something concrete. Maybe he had something already and the Woodward thing gave him the missing piece he needed to go forward.

Bush rewards his frieds. Just ask Muir. As soon as Cheney’s heart is visible hanging out of his pant leg, Condi will take his place.

This way, once again, George the History Puff makes history as electing the first woman, and the first person of color, to the vice presidency.

If that Oval desk is rockin’ don’t come knockin’………

The whole political calculus has changed folks…so don’t assume Scalito is a done deal. The Chimp and Darth couldn’t get Jesus past the Dems in the Senate if we keep the heat on. And we must keep the heat on because the supreme court will be in a position ta overturn a lotta good stuff outta the Fitz spectacular AND Stevens is gunna give up the gost in the next couple a years. We can’t quit now.

me

How about Condasleaza?

WASHINGTON — The Republican-controlled Congress helped itself to a $3,100 pay raise on Friday, then postponed work on bills to curb spending on social programs and cut taxes in favor of a two-week vacation

Case in point!

Words of advice from a grand chess master:

“if you have no clear opportunity to advance and gain advantage– allow your opponent to take the initiative- he will likely do something stupid.”

Re the Iraq pullout: Is Congress suffering from “premature evacuation”?

Sorry that last was for “Me”

Kindasleezy Rice

Kindalazy Rice

or

Condolenza Rice

The last being for all the condolences she owes to the families of all the people killed, maimed, made homeless, impoverished, shell-shocked, etc in this pointless illegal racist and lost war.

Gooper senators have made a few comments about the Animal House show… you can summarize the comments with “really, really stupid”.

Goopers have screwed the pooch so often lately that the poor pup is about to give birth to weasels.

Can’t depend on them messin up this badly EVERY time– but they are certainly showing that they are capable of great political stupidity.

What we are seeing is “displacement behavior”.

If a dog is set on charging into the hen house– and encounters and insurmountable obstacle- it will begin a series of random actions— biting itself- eating dirt- running in ever decreasing concentric circles- etc.

That’s what goopers are doing right now.

Mutual douchebaggery alert: Condi would be an ideal source for Sir Run Amok to mine for nuggets on her Husb / ab crunch partner, and keep that front-of-the-line spot necessary to be the Chimperor’s official hagiographer.

Condi Macbeth would seed the river with trite nuggets of insider poop (eg, today, my Husb dropped and gave me fifty after I caught him washing down a Ding Dong with some Johnnie Black) with dish-information about the Wilsons.

If the shoe Fitz!

Not related to the leak case but a good read at link below. It’s related to the great commonalities between the (conservative) libertarians and leftists particularly on issues of war and constitutional rights at home. I urge people to read it.

http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh11172005.html

“One may argue that the Libertarians, traditional Right and the Left do not need to come together, that each can fight against the war in its own way. But this is not adequate for several reasons. First, such separation is a set-up for a divide-and-conquer approach, at which the two War Parties are very adept. The Republicans can appeal to the Libertarians and traditional conservatives to support them as a lesser evil;and the Democrats can appeal to the Left to support them as the lesser evil. The net result is the dominance of the War Parties and the continuation of war, empire and the suppression of liberties embodied in the Patriot Act. And this tactic has worked well for the War Parties who have alternated in the making of war and supervision of the empire while the anti-war forces are left without a real political home. And without contact, each side is left with the stereotypes of the other, stereotypes that only reinforce their separation.”

Also, an invaluable site (much mentioned in article above):
http://www.antiwar.com/

the Chicago Tribune has begun to come around from being Administration apologists

http://tinyurl.com/afgwg

The Corrupt Republican Machine is being decapitated by Treasongate, gutted by the continuing exposure of the Abramoff Shakedown Network’s crimes, and driven from the village square by torch-bearing citizens fed up with lies, incompetence and the craven abandonment of our troops in harm’s way by their so-called leaders.

The perfect storm.

This was the most dangerous year in the Clusterfuck second term- and thanks to lots of help from His Incompetence- dems dodged most of the bullets..

Next year goopers will try their best to appear to be sane– by 07 gooper presidential hopefuls will be stealing the show tryin to disembowel one another.

We may be over the hump!

WORST thing that could happen would be for the goopers to go REALLY sane and demand that Cheney take a hike– If McCain becomes VP- as I fear he will- all bets are off on 08.

sorry for the inadvertant refresh
(but it’s nice to know I’m not the only one this happes to)

pacha – the SCJ is only 1 for 2
and Conservative is not always neandrathal, just like Liberal is not always sagicious

Miers was a bad call (obviously) and Alito might not be substantially better

rwc – of course cf has no idea how to deal with adversity
playing dress-up only goes so far once you start a war and have a couple hurricanes and what-not

Dad might have been able to bail him out again, but silly twit – he closed that door

i forgot who used this phrase but it fits so well
“born on third base, he thinks he hit a triple”

Unfortunately the Animal House session crowded out images of thousands of Koreans rioting in the streets and burning Clusterfuck in effigy…

Didn’t he know that he would face this? Whatta moron!

indeedy! the Repubs resolution was a pseudo antiwar event designed to discredit and thwart the American populations desire to quickly end the carnage in Iraq. They invented a strawman argument to knock down with great fanfare but it backfired. Their perfidy was exposed and it just sputtered and spluttered and fizzled…

Has anyone already noticed that WaPo’s coverage of last night’s festivities on the floor of the House is far better than the NYT’s coverage?

The NYT does not make it clear that that House did not consider the Murtha proposal at all.

Maybe I’m just late to that party on this little point.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02896.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11…..r=homepage

i particularly like the st patrick nutcracker
very seasonal

i always new that this nest would unravel
i just thought that it would start later and take longer
(of course, there is so much accumulated dirt, it very well might take years – but it is soooo gratifying to see it start now)

dear reddhead, what a yummy saturday morning treat!

I’m in no hurry for Fitz to finish up his work- although the suspense is incredible..

The longer this goes on- the worse it is for Clusterfuck– hell make it another year or two Fitzy– and let Clusterfuck sweat bullets the whole time..

It is clear that he has no idea about how to deal with real adversity- none.

When Clusterfuck got re-elected- we were faced with some pretty dire possibilites..

We knew that he would probably have the chance to put neandrethals on the supreme court- and that he has done.. Water under the bridge perhaps.

On the other hand– there was his legislative agenda- he wants to move the clock back to the robber baron days..

2005 was to be the year to accomplish most of it. He knew that 06 is an election year- and that goopers couldn’t do anything too radical- and by 2007 he would be a lame duck..

2005 had to be the year- and he geared up early– teeing up the poison pill plan for social security and positioning for a “flattening” of the income tax.

Well there are about two weeks left in this congress- and what’s he got to show for it- a highway bill?

He has been stopped in his tracks- and the road ahead for his agenda looks just as rocky..

Best thing that can happen for the coutry right now is for Clusterfuck to remain in office for three more years under a growing cloud of suspicion and disdain- for goopers to continue to circle the barnyard like headless chickens- and for americans to decide that goopers will NEVER run the govt. again..

I just saw a soundbite. NOW I get it. What Duncan Hunter was so worried about last night and why we had to have that resolution: he was worried about precipitous pullout!

I didn’t know that could be fixed with a congressional resolution….

Condopleazza for Dummies

I’m wondering if this might be rapping things up.

as the article points out, re addressing the grand jury isn’t something done for each instance, the fritzster would comsolidate the effor.

this might be the end of the investigation boys and girls

Wow, I just now saw the graphic. This place not only has the most trenchant, kickass, funny, and satisfying writing, but the BEST graphix. Kudos.

And Zap, boy have I been waiting decades for that pair o’ whores Joe ‘n Vicki to be reduced to hapless sputtering. Just about there…

I hope it has escaped no one’s notice that the minority party in Congress has virtually become the majority party, setting the effective agenda.

We can’t actually set the agenda, but they can’t either, and every arm wrestling match turns to our favor, now.

Oh boy, Joe DiG. and Vicky T. are gonna take out some mean frustration on each other tonight.

Mornin fitzbats.

Booby the Chimpfluffer.

i particularly like the st patrick nutcracker
very seasonal

i always new that this nest would unravel
i just thought that it would start later and take longer
(of course, there is so much accumulated dirt, it very well might take years – but it is soooo gratifying to see it start now)

I just posted this on the below thIn his press conference announcing LibbyÂ’s indictment, Fitzgerald noted that, “Mr. Libby was the first official known to have told a —-reporter—- when he talked to Judith Miller in June of 2003 about Valerie Wilson.”

Jane: You broke the code. Fitz, in a carefully worded indictment, used Libby as chum to bring author Sob Backwoods into the boat. In the White House, Sob was an author, not a reporter read.

Imelda Rice doesn’t flow… Condoleeza Marcos?

Condoleeza: the perp who loves pumps!

This would have been more appropriate to the last thread, but I would like to put a motion on the floor that we change Bob Woodward’s name to “Access of Evil”.

http://fusioner.proboards60.co…..1131129004

I am still going to ask for letters.

No surrender… This is a war we are winning. Winner take all, no prisoners… If they don’t give up…

[insert skull and crossbones here]