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		<title>By: Kathi</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22427</link>
		<dc:creator>Kathi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Pach&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I totally agree with you!!  When Libby was spilling his guts out to Investigators, Ashcroft had not yet recused himself.  I’m sure they were banking on his “help” in making this go away because he would never have pressed the Press to reveal their sources.  OOOPs!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pach</p>
<p>I totally agree with you!!  When Libby was spilling his guts out to Investigators, Ashcroft had not yet recused himself.  I’m sure they were banking on his “help” in making this go away because he would never have pressed the Press to reveal their sources.  OOOPs!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22428</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are so right,  John Pearley Huffman.  The public lacks any interest whatever in “growing fleet” of BushCo. scandals.  Thanks for clearing that up for us.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right,  John Pearley Huffman.  The public lacks any interest whatever in “growing fleet” of BushCo. scandals.  Thanks for clearing that up for us.</p>
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		<title>By: lgf</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22429</link>
		<dc:creator>lgf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;One more post: The Kyle amendment is going&lt;br /&gt;to be voted on in the Judicary committee and&lt;br /&gt;sent to the Senate. This amendment speeds &lt;br /&gt;up the killing of people on Death Row. check&lt;br /&gt;it out. These fuckers in the Senate are truly &lt;br /&gt;living in a culture of death. More and more&lt;br /&gt;killing, more and more denial of human rights,&lt;br /&gt;and rights of privacy and habeus corpus.&lt;br /&gt;I sure hope the Dem’s filibuster this and&lt;br /&gt;Allito.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more post: The Kyle amendment is going<br />to be voted on in the Judicary committee and<br />sent to the Senate. This amendment speeds <br />up the killing of people on Death Row. check<br />it out. These fuckers in the Senate are truly <br />living in a culture of death. More and more<br />killing, more and more denial of human rights,<br />and rights of privacy and habeus corpus.<br />I sure hope the Dem’s filibuster this and<br />Allito.</p>
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		<title>By: lgf</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22430</link>
		<dc:creator>lgf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;To change the thread for a moment to&lt;br /&gt;an earlier post about 60th year since 1st&lt;br /&gt;Nuremberg Trial.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Guardian Unlimited has a story up quoting&lt;br /&gt;Pinochet, (remember Kissenger and Allende)&lt;br /&gt;saying:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“I suffer from these losses. God does his deeds.&lt;br /&gt;He will pardon me if I exceed in some, which&lt;br /&gt;I don’t think.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Everything I did, all that I carried out, all the&lt;br /&gt;problems  I had, I dedicate to God.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;a Chilean editor said about Pinochet;&lt;br /&gt;“he’s an old fox and that he can find words&lt;br /&gt;to justify what he did.”  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Remember Bush saying he is directed by God.&lt;br /&gt;Let’s remember Pinochet’s words down the&lt;br /&gt;road hopefully when this administration will be held accountable.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suggest GWB not choose to land in Spain on&lt;br /&gt;vacation when he leaves office.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To change the thread for a moment to<br />an earlier post about 60th year since 1st<br />Nuremberg Trial.</p>
<p>Guardian Unlimited has a story up quoting<br />Pinochet, (remember Kissenger and Allende)<br />saying:</p>
<p>“I suffer from these losses. God does his deeds.<br />He will pardon me if I exceed in some, which<br />I don’t think.”</p>
<p>“Everything I did, all that I carried out, all the<br />problems  I had, I dedicate to God.”</p>
<p>a Chilean editor said about Pinochet;<br />“he’s an old fox and that he can find words<br />to justify what he did.”  </p>
<p>Remember Bush saying he is directed by God.<br />Let’s remember Pinochet’s words down the<br />road hopefully when this administration will be held accountable.</p>
<p>I suggest GWB not choose to land in Spain on<br />vacation when he leaves office.</p>
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		<title>By: Primordial Ooze</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22431</link>
		<dc:creator>Primordial Ooze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I suspect your problems are concidence, but if your ISP has the history you describe, then get another ISP, ccow!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect your problems are concidence, but if your ISP has the history you describe, then get another ISP, ccow!</p>
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		<title>By: ccow</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22432</link>
		<dc:creator>ccow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;New thread, y’all.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And since this one will be moving slowly from now on I’m gonna throw some conspiracy this way.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m slowly being cut off from visiting many of the links posted here.  I can’t reach the newest in Redd’s new article either without being booted off the net altogether.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I’m a nobody, but I did post here that DeLay is a member of Second Baptist Church and I think I’m paying for it.  I’m on a server that has been outed for destroying links for its members.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But I have another way to read the links so I’ll be doing that and probably posting less.  (Maybe that’s a good thing!)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Keep up the good work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New thread, y’all.</p>
<p>And since this one will be moving slowly from now on I’m gonna throw some conspiracy this way.</p>
<p>I’m slowly being cut off from visiting many of the links posted here.  I can’t reach the newest in Redd’s new article either without being booted off the net altogether.</p>
<p>Yeah, I’m a nobody, but I did post here that DeLay is a member of Second Baptist Church and I think I’m paying for it.  I’m on a server that has been outed for destroying links for its members.</p>
<p>But I have another way to read the links so I’ll be doing that and probably posting less.  (Maybe that’s a good thing!)</p>
<p>Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>By: Shez.inMI</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22433</link>
		<dc:creator>Shez.inMI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;coyote: &lt;i&gt;“…russ feingold can attack. he’s been against the war from the beginning. a few others can do this as well, but not that many.”&lt;/i&gt; &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Senators that voted against the war resolution:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Bingaman (D-NM)&lt;br /&gt;Boxer (D-CA)&lt;br /&gt;Byrd (D-WV)&lt;br /&gt;Chafee (R-RI)&lt;br /&gt;Conrad (D-ND)&lt;br /&gt;Corzine (D-NJ)&lt;br /&gt;Dayton (D-MN)&lt;br /&gt;Durbin (D-IL)&lt;br /&gt;Feingold (D-WI)&lt;br /&gt;Graham (D-FL)&lt;br /&gt;Inouye (D-HI)&lt;br /&gt;Jeffords (I-VT)&lt;br /&gt;Kennedy (D-MA)&lt;br /&gt;Leahy (D-VT)&lt;br /&gt;Levin (D-MI)&lt;br /&gt;Mikulski (D-MD)&lt;br /&gt;Murray (D-WA)&lt;br /&gt;Reed (D-RI)&lt;br /&gt;Sarbanes (D-MD)&lt;br /&gt;Stabenow (D-MI)&lt;br /&gt;Wellstone (D-MN)&lt;br /&gt;Wyden (D-OR)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;As an aside, just heard the money quote of the day so far, on CNN (by Hunter ?, can’t see my TV for the plants)&lt;br /&gt;“The American people must change the world, or the world will change the American people.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>coyote: <i>“…russ feingold can attack. he’s been against the war from the beginning. a few others can do this as well, but not that many.”</i> </p>
<p>Senators that voted against the war resolution:</p>
<p>Bingaman (D-NM)<br />Boxer (D-CA)<br />Byrd (D-WV)<br />Chafee (R-RI)<br />Conrad (D-ND)<br />Corzine (D-NJ)<br />Dayton (D-MN)<br />Durbin (D-IL)<br />Feingold (D-WI)<br />Graham (D-FL)<br />Inouye (D-HI)<br />Jeffords (I-VT)<br />Kennedy (D-MA)<br />Leahy (D-VT)<br />Levin (D-MI)<br />Mikulski (D-MD)<br />Murray (D-WA)<br />Reed (D-RI)<br />Sarbanes (D-MD)<br />Stabenow (D-MI)<br />Wellstone (D-MN)<br />Wyden (D-OR)</p>
<p>As an aside, just heard the money quote of the day so far, on CNN (by Hunter ?, can’t see my TV for the plants)<br />“The American people must change the world, or the world will change the American people.”</p>
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		<title>By: WineDrkSea82</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22434</link>
		<dc:creator>WineDrkSea82</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;The Kurtz story does contain a very interesting nugget, that I think indicates that Booby’s source gave him a heads up — before Libby was indicted — that he was going to talk with Fitz.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;See, that’s why this blog is brilliant. I read the “stilted paragraph” and thought, “There’s something there that doesn’t make sense. Kurtz seems to be saying that Booby WoodMill went to his editor and his source went to Fitz at the same time as pure coincidence. How is that possible?” &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Clearly, I’m not bright enough to read between the lines, but thankfully Redd is. Thanks, Redd!!!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, and Jay Rosen’s full quote upthread is classic!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Though I’m clearly a simpleton, I for the life of me don’t understand how WoodMill makes Fitz’s life “more complicated” as it relates to prosecuting Scooter,  Anastasia.  Either Scooter lied under oath and while being deposed or he didn’t. The indictment makes a strong case that he did and that his reason for doing so was to conceal something. Woodmill and other conversations involving others has no bearing on this, as far as I can see.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The Kurtz story does contain a very interesting nugget, that I think indicates that Booby’s source gave him a heads up — before Libby was indicted — that he was going to talk with Fitz.</i></p>
<p>See, that’s why this blog is brilliant. I read the “stilted paragraph” and thought, “There’s something there that doesn’t make sense. Kurtz seems to be saying that Booby WoodMill went to his editor and his source went to Fitz at the same time as pure coincidence. How is that possible?” </p>
<p>Clearly, I’m not bright enough to read between the lines, but thankfully Redd is. Thanks, Redd!!!</p>
<p>Oh, and Jay Rosen’s full quote upthread is classic!</p>
<p>Though I’m clearly a simpleton, I for the life of me don’t understand how WoodMill makes Fitz’s life “more complicated” as it relates to prosecuting Scooter,  Anastasia.  Either Scooter lied under oath and while being deposed or he didn’t. The indictment makes a strong case that he did and that his reason for doing so was to conceal something. Woodmill and other conversations involving others has no bearing on this, as far as I can see.</p>
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		<title>By: Pachacutec</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22435</link>
		<dc:creator>Pachacutec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I never called anyone a troll.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I commented on a comment about trolls.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please practice literacy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never called anyone a troll.</p>
<p>I commented on a comment about trolls.</p>
<p>Please practice literacy.</p>
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		<title>By: John Pearley Huffman</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/11/17/piling-on-booby/#comment-22436</link>
		<dc:creator>John Pearley Huffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At the risk of being called a troll once more…&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;All the Woodward crack-up/crank-up/fuck-up does is further muddy the already foul waters around this story. And the muddier things become, the harder they are to make sense of to either a jury or the American public.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Back in 1972, 1973 and 1974 the further into Watergate the investigations went the clearer Nixon’s perfidy and paranoia became. This “scandal” (it barely rates that) seems to only grow more indistinct as time goes on. Fitzgerald wil have a tough time criminalizing what has apparently been standard operating procedure — the workaday relationships between journalists and government officials in Washington.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Maybe there will be some sort of clarifying moment. Or a witness who can bundle all this into something comprehensible and prosecutable. It’s possible. But I doubt it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The outing of a deep cover CIA operative is obviously a serious thing. But the evidence that Valerie Plame was anything near that is scant. So we’re left with derivative prosecutions for what someone said to someone and whether they were upfront with a grand jury about saying it. This isn’t an easy sell.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;About the only good thing to come from the Woodward revelation is that it opens up a fresh vein of speculation. For the next few days we can all obsess over identifying who leaked to Bob. At least that’s fun.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This whole thing is going nowhere. Scooter Libby might as well fire his criminal attorney now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of being called a troll once more…</p>
<p>All the Woodward crack-up/crank-up/fuck-up does is further muddy the already foul waters around this story. And the muddier things become, the harder they are to make sense of to either a jury or the American public.</p>
<p>Back in 1972, 1973 and 1974 the further into Watergate the investigations went the clearer Nixon’s perfidy and paranoia became. This “scandal” (it barely rates that) seems to only grow more indistinct as time goes on. Fitzgerald wil have a tough time criminalizing what has apparently been standard operating procedure — the workaday relationships between journalists and government officials in Washington.</p>
<p>Maybe there will be some sort of clarifying moment. Or a witness who can bundle all this into something comprehensible and prosecutable. It’s possible. But I doubt it.</p>
<p>The outing of a deep cover CIA operative is obviously a serious thing. But the evidence that Valerie Plame was anything near that is scant. So we’re left with derivative prosecutions for what someone said to someone and whether they were upfront with a grand jury about saying it. This isn’t an easy sell.</p>
<p>About the only good thing to come from the Woodward revelation is that it opens up a fresh vein of speculation. For the next few days we can all obsess over identifying who leaked to Bob. At least that’s fun.</p>
<p>This whole thing is going nowhere. Scooter Libby might as well fire his criminal attorney now.</p>
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