percy posted a link to the timeline at Think Progress related to Tenet/Bush testimony and Tenet’s resignation…

That’s here…

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/…..k-scandal/

I hadn’t connected that timeline with the May 20 Chalabi Baghdad Headquarters raid timeline…

I’ve just a bit of research on this. The US gov was in incredible disarray re: that raid. Rumsfeld didn’t know about it. Different reports about WHO the americans were that were involved and different reports about WHY it took place. And, also some small revealing quotations… All these can be seen with a simple google… “chalabi raid may 2004″

I am still sceptical, watching the wheels come off the way they are now, after so much polished skullduggery, it seems difficult to believe. I am more inclined to think, that the Bush II and Co are being subjected to divide and conquer for committing some foul that has little to do with IIPA.

They lost the support of the ‘evil spirit’ (pardon the prose) empowering their mad campaign, and it has turned on them. The question now worrying me, is who will be chosen to replace them.

I have nothing personally against Fitz, I just don’t see someone pursuing a case this high up without a big powerful safety net.

It is possible true justice is playing out here, I guess I’m just jaded from seeing so little of it governing in the public domain over the last few decades.

percy posted a link to the timeline at Think Progress related to Tenet/Bush testimony and Tenet’s resignation…

That’s here…

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/…..k-scandal/

I hadn’t connected that timeline with the May 20 Chalabi Baghdad Headquarters raid timeline…

I’ve just a bit of research on this. The US gov was in incredible disarray re: that raid. Rumsfeld didn’t know about it. Different reports about WHO the americans were that were involved and different reports about WHY it took place. And, also some small revealing quotations… All these can be seen with a simple google… “chalabi raid may 2004″

Someone upthread asked about reading previous Fitzy indictments. Try here: http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/…..index.html I can’t tell which ones he personally wrote, but these came from his office.

DRUDGE REPORT Karl Rove, President Bush’s senior adviser and deputy chief of staff, will not be charged on Friday, but would remain under investigation, people briefed officially about the case said…

http://www.drudgereport.com

Me:

hehe. Didn’t think of peppermint schnapps, obviously. But, do you seriously think that Bush hasn’t done coke in the recent past? Or that there aren’t illegal drugs around the place? I don’t really know, myself.

I saw a video online (don’t watch TV) of a Bush press conference when he took time out from his Crawford vacation to visit Idaho National Guard. His performance was bizarre, to say the least! Sorry, I can’t find a link at the moment.
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… Fitzmas Pony complete with spangly cowgirl riding costume (for me, not the pony)…

C’mon, you’re not fooling anyone, Peanut. :-)

I don’t know how the other elected Republicans are going to be able to back this administration, considering what is apparently coming down…

I know that I would be reading up on Impeachment proceedings if I were in their shoes.

Tryggth… Great links ;)

The Editor and Publisher asks what’s up with Pinch over at the NYT… Yeah it’s clear, his actions have outed him as a neocon both aware of and involved in the Iraq war conspiracy. Total sellout to his readers, and America.

The two oil links you posted are dead on correct. You know they spent 200+ billion, 2000 lives, and less oil comes out of Iraq today than when Saddam was pumping under sanctions!!! What a mess.

Valley Girl… “Altoid Boy” had me in stitches… They should put him on peppermint schnapps when he has to press the flesh… He drinks what, bourbon I think?

And the two indictees are…

Elizabeth “Libby” Scooter & Hamilton Sandwich

Me 5:38

Bush IS seriously off the rails. But I suspect it’s not just legal drugs. Anyway, I had an aha! moment when I read this a while back. EtOH!

“Hernandez was, in Bush’s world of nicknames, “Altoid boy,” bearer and dispenser of the curiously strong breath mints so crucial to a hand-to-hand politician like Bush.”

http://www.epluribusmedia.org/…..811p1.html

In the context of the triumvirate [Oil-DoD-Cheney/Neocons/Israel] (not all the interests are aligned, but Iraq was a little like “Murder on the Orient Express”) there are these three interesting links:

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK

Note reference to Gerth in: http://www.editorandpublisher……1001348705

Access to a secret military report in: http://www.theledger.com/apps/…..1/business

Some of the internecine drama: http://news.baou.com/main.php?…..;rid=20593

“I spend a few hours driving from DC to NY, and you let all kindsa shit happen without me, and now I have to catch up.”

Cry me a river, Pachacutec.

I live in northern Vermont, got hit with left over Wilma on Tuesday, and just got electricity back two hours ago. A foot of snow that was the consistency of wet concrete, which took down lots of trees, which then took down the electricity.

And did I mention it’s pledge week on public radio up here?

I was driving my wife crazy, stomping around like a caged animal. The perfect storm: the gathering implosion of the bush white house, no internet access, and public radio begging ad nauseum during the news. Thank god I had some scotch in the house.

Firefly, thanks bunches for the link to the transcripts:

“LANG: I think Mr. Fitzgerald is a kind of person who does not see things in relative terms in any way. He sees things that either things are correct or they’re not correct.

And all his past seems to indicate that he will press the cases, I think, very hard. In fact, his use of some laws seem may seem to be quite creative to many people. “

Media speak for: Fitz is gonna throw the book at these guys ;)

I got it Valley Girl ;) “Lots of speculation about Bush and his crack jaw… would illegal drugs in the WH be something that Fitz might have included in his thorough investigation? Or not the kind of thing that would concern him?”

I have to laugh… Yes Fitz would certainly pick up on anything like that… But you have to remember, shrub gets his fixes from a real doctor… And I am serious, it looks like they pump him with something, or a combination of somethings… LOL, sometimes they miss the dosage I think and push him out in front of the media lights and he is just a vibrating manic mess.

Then you see times when he is not expected to perform, like the picture at the very top I linked to… And he looks hagard, ashen, droopy and inattentive… Like he can’t wait to get back to the wet bar in the limo.

Also, props to Tommy Yum for the Rcihard Thompson/Fairport connection

seenos at dailykos has the line of the night: Survivor – The White House

“I spend a few hours driving from DC to NY, and you let all kindsa shit happen without me, and now I have to catch up.”

Cry me a river, Pachacutec.

I live in northern Vermont, got hit with left over Wilma on Tuesday, and just got electricity back two hours ago. A foot of snow that was the consistency of wet concrete, which took down lots of trees, which then took down the electricity.

And did I mention it’s pledge week on public radio up here?

I was driving my wife crazy, stomping around like a caged animal. The perfect storm: the gathering implosion of the bush white house, no internet access, and public radio begging ad nauseum during the news. Thank god I had some scotch in the house.

Me 4:58

Thanks for the link to the Kerry article. This guy is another weathervane- knows which way the wind blows. “…a wistful Kerry allowed that he had “had thoughts of coming back in a different role.” ” VP?

And, Me, did you see my question above about drugs in the WH? That was kinda intended for you.
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What I can figure out is how someone like Delay says “criminalization of politics” with a straight face.

i don’t think a Bush defense of “I had no idea what was going on…” works politically or otherwise, but desperate times call for desperate measures. What i still can’t buy into is that Bush has any clue about anything. He’s the empty suit, and Rove doesn’t want him or himself to be the fall guy.

Hi!
-Pachacutec

Hey, Pacha. Welcome back. Can I get you a drink? Coffee?

Well, I’m just finding it fascinating the finger pointing has now turned to who’s fault the “faulty intelligence” was. Who sexed it up, who cooked the books…….Appears the light bulb finally clicked on about where this case is heading. Very interesting indeed.

a – “Lay off it okay, we get the sarcasm. It’s vicious. Go away.”

It’s ok. I am proud I have my very own neocon troll following me like a lapdog. There was a time when I felt downright intimidated, but the burden comes off the more truth comes out.

All smiles :)))

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/ms……widec.jpg

Bush does “feel good meds” and thinks she is sitting on the GJ ???

That’s the Florida photo-op from the other day… Staged, as usual… But I read someplace (I went back to find the link and it’s moved) that the back of the crowd was rather surly during his speach ;)

Kerry is finally getting on message:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..02221.html

And an excellent blog post at HuffPo by RJ Eskow:
” WeÂ’ve come to a bizarre stage in history when a justification is required for ending war, rather than for continuing it.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/….._9629.html

You’d think that the wingnuts would figure out that the ambiguity of the phrase- “criminalization of politics” doesn’t lean in their favor.

They’re losing it.

If you tested the phrase with a hundred average americans- they would think that it had to do with politicians who become criminals- like Delay.

Here’s where I think Libby’s tea leaves are pointing–straight at Shrubbya.

Don’t you all think that Libby would have firsthand knowledge of Shrub’s presence at certain meetings? and, more than knowledge, due to his type-Anal personality, he’s probably got notes galore…

Now, if the White House is trying to play the blame game and cut him loose from the lifeboat, then it’s more than possible that he’s ‘lost his religion,’ and is ready to come clean about everything–and given his status, i’m sure there wasn’t much he wasn’t privy to…

Maybe that’s why Shrub’s not getting any sleep;>

I doubt if the WH staff ever considered having GWB utter the name of the country of ‘Niger’. They know all too well how he reads a teleprompter…
Wilson46201

best line of the day

Evil P. & Percy,

I disagree. Your saying AWOL/Moron ……..CAN’T …. pull off the Ignorance Defense? (Or as my buddy, the criminal attorney in Orlando calls it…. “The…”Willie done it” defense.) Who is more capable of proving ignorance than this Chimp. OK. I’ll answer for you…. The Amicable Dunce hisownself, R. Reagan. Anyone remember his Iran-Contra testimony? He said, “I don’t know” over 100 times in under 3 hours. And you know what? He was believable.

So don’t tell me this guy can’t use that.

Jeez, guys, I spend a few hours driving from DC to NY, and you let all kindsa shit happen without me, and now I have to catch up.

Hi!

The CNN transcript from earlier today is up – two intelligence guys talking about the real damage caused by Valerie Plame’s outing – scroll about 2/3 down the page:

BLITZER: Turning now to our security council. Tomorrow the special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is expected to make an announcement on whether or not there will be indictments in the CIA leak case. But how much damage was actually done to U.S. intelligence by the outing of the CIA operative Valerie Plame?

Joining us now, retired U.S. Army Colonel Pat Lange, a former chief analyst for the Pentagon’s defense intelligence agency, and our own national security correspondent David Ensor. Two guys who know this subject well.

How much damage do you believe was actually done as a result of her name being released?

COL. WALTER “PAT” LANG, U.S. ARMY (RET): I think quite a lot. I mean, she actually was functioning in kind of a covered status in which she remained covered so that when she went overseas to meet people in conjunction she — the operation would be secure. And the thing she was running in particular were blown away obviously by these — this disclosure.

But I think the larger issue is that the very fact that the U.S. government seems to have in fact disclosed the identity of one of its covert officers would cause people around the world to think that we have no credibility and that we could not be trusted to protect their identities if they cooperated with us.

Lots more at the link:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..om.01.html

Thanks for the link, Jan.

http://turcopolier.typepad.com….._tyrannis/

“This source, supported by three others, alleged that it was a telephone call from the Department of State that first gave Libby the name of Plame. The name of the caller? No one is sure. But these sources said that the call defintely came from the State Department office of John Bolton, then the arms control chief of the department. “

Could the plot get any thicker?

Hopefully a better link http://www.turcopolier.typepad.com./ – Thanks Jan

(Juan: :: LMFAO! ::)

Related: Porter Goss got croney’d upward for keeping intel from congress critters during the march for a ginned-up war. Only a handful of critters got to see the “full” sensitive intel; the rest were told scary stories before turning over declarative authority to the Popular Wartime Preznit.

Oh yeah, gimme my Fitzmas Pony complete with spangly cowgirl riding costume (for me, not the pony): CONSPIRACY.
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Waiting and hoping and watching… so I’ll bring up a minor semi-serious question. Lots of speculation about Bush and his crack jaw… would illegal drugs in the WH be something that Fitz might have included in his thorough investigation? Or not the kind of thing that would concern him?
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rwcole — politics only gets criminalized when criminals run for office. Ahem.

CHICAGO (AFX) – The U.S. dollar, Treasurys and American stocks could sell off if top White House aides are indicted on charges they leaked the identity of a CIA employee, analysts said Thursday.

(Linked at Drudge)

Delay now railing about “the criminalization of conservative politics”

I agree with Delay- and give him credit for much of the “criminalization”- course President Clusterfuck has done his share too!

Then Chris and the other guy just jumped his bones!!!!

There’s an ugly image.

Another humdinger right here…http://turcopolier.typepad.com/

The most interesting aspect of the article is “against legal objections”

If we knew what the objections were- we might find the acts a bit more interesting.

Was it a clear violation of the request from congress?

Could be impeachable if we had a real congress.

Keep a good thought

Evil Parallel – I agree. It’s going to be hard for Cowboy in Chief to sell “Gosh, I had NO idea what was going on.”

This is why I think there’s a strong chance Bush will, in time, fall with the rest.

Is it me, or does George Allen look like the bizarre love child of Bill Clinton and Tim Russert?

Wilson & Juan–
So they tried it out on the teleprompter as “It was a conspiracy with Niger. . . or Niger was responsible. . . or, Saddam and a Niger businessman. . . “and thought, nawhh?

Snort, snort.

Ok I’m really, really getting excited now.

No Viagra pens needed.

slsla – Do you believe that type of spin will work? I have posted this before – this is the Ken Lay Enron defense – the Chairman/CEO did not know, didn’t deal with these matters. It doesn’t work in the corporate world (Scrushy be damned – although he was just indicted by the State), and it does not fly in the political world. No matter how much spin someone tries to put on it, a duck is a duck. And, let’s say it is true that there were only a few rotten apples. It is one thing to go off into the sunset after your company goes bankrupt without having been convicted. But I don’t think the president can make the same argument. He is admitting incompetence. He is in a no win situation on this, they all are, there are no good stories or outcomes. Of course, you may disagree.

to me the Waas article is interesting if you ask who gave him this info at this particular time. It’s clearly an attempt to shift blame off Bush/Rove and onto Cheney/Libby. Somebody wants us to believe that Cheney/Libby are the only 2 rotten apples of the administration, responsible for the mistake of Iraq. When Cheney/Libby resign Rove/Bush can say “all our problems are behind us.”

Tweety used the Waas revelation as lead in to Hardball. The he and the Lefty guy( I am losing trackof all the players,) piled on the Righty gut when he tried to float the same crap as Hutchinson di on Meet the Press. The Righty guy was hoping that Fitz would indict on the “crime” not on Perjury or Obstruction. When Tweety and the Lefty guy reminded him that Clinton was impeached, he replied ,”but he wasn’t indicted.” Then Chris and the other guy just jumped his bones!!!! I don’t think I’ve ever seen the whole panel jump on the Right Winger like that , not ever, maybe not even during Watergate!(Yes, I’m old.)

It contributes to the general sense that the administration has not been honest with American people and that Bush is not in charge.
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Assuage your Fitzmas anxiety with more Holiday binge eating:

The Italian Job Timeline: Second Course

It’s meaty!

Were Cowboy Scoots and Big Dick witholding the Italian Half-Baked Dodgy Dossier Frittata, perhaps?

Waas also notes the PDBs are withheld:

“In addition to withholding drafts of Powell’s speech — which included passages written by Libby — the administration also refused to turn over to the committee contents of the president’s morning intelligence briefings on Iraq, sources say. These documents, known as the Presidential Daily Brief, or PDB, are a written summary of intelligence information and analysis provided by the CIA to the president. “

This is consistent with the party line “we can’t release these docs cuz of exec priviledge”but might they be evidence of when GWB knew “it”?

BTW- This Wheel’s On Fire is Dylan circa Big Pink daze.

“We’ll be fighting in the streets,
with our children at our feet,
and the morals that they worship will be gone.
And the men who spurred us on
sit in judgement of all wrong,
they decide and the shotgun sings the song.
I’ll tip my hat to the new constitution
take a bow for the new revolution,
smile and grin at the change all around,
take up my guitar and play just like yesterday,
and I’ll get on my knees and pray.
— We don’t get fooled again.
The change it had to come,
we knew it all along,
we were liberated from the fold, that’s all.
And the world looks just the same,
and history ain’t changed,
’cause the banners were all flown in the last war.
I’ll move myself and my family aside,
if we happen to be left half alive,
I’ll get all my papers and smile at the sky,
though I know that the hypnotized never lie.
Nothing in the street looks any different to me.
And the slogans are replaced by the by,
and the parting on the left is now parting on the right,
and the beards have all grown longer over night.
Meet the new boss.
Same as the old boss”

But didn’t we knew over a year ago that Bush & Co. withheld documents from the Senate Intelligence Committee? What’s new here?

I read this and say, “so what”.

Roberts and Rockerfeller would not have voted for the war if they knew there were no WMDs?

There sure wouldn’t have been too many senators that would have authorized war to bring “freedom and democracy to our Arab friends”.

All the White House did was claim privledge to not send to Congress some of their more irrational reasons/evidence for the war. Am I supposed to believe that the senators can’t remember what evidence was presented to congress before the war resolution? Are they saying that what they saw previous to the vote is not the same stuff that they are seening now?

I’m just not getting what the big deal is here.

Help me out.

Evil – He and the Democratic statagist discussed how it was a part of the disinformationation that the administration used to bring us to war.
The Repug on the show was pathetic in his response.

Wilson,

Where I come from, Charlotte, North Cackalaky, if Chimp pronounced that countrie’s name as you suggest his poll numbers would soar.

Jane,
Your writing has been sumptuous. Treasongate is the most important story in the last forty years. I remain ever hopeful the System will prevail and Right will win out over Might. If things go down as anticipated, Fitz will become the Icon for Poetic Justice.

“Don’t do the ‘Leak’,
Or you’ll be up Shit Creek.”

MeIstheMan.

Lay off it okay, we get the sarcasm. It’s vicious. Go away.

“With Conspiracy it is the narrative that hangs defendants, not so much the individual piece of evidence taken as a single piece . . .”

Well and astutely put as usual, Sara.

Old Gold,
It’s possible, for sure, that the scandal would have made a difference in the election. But it seems like Plamegate wasn’t all that important to most of the American people and the MSM.

I hate to say it but I think that Katrina has done more to expose the rot in this Administration than any amount of scandal could. The MSM and middle America seemed to be cemented in their indifference. Perhaps some voodoo priestess righteously put a curse on Bush for destroying New Orleans.

It’s far-fetched I know but hey, who among us could have predicted Bush would be in such deep doo doo?

Voodoo doo doo for Dubbya.

D – What happened on Tweety? I was I admit it watching CNN.

I think Bush is about to do something really out there–even by his wacky standards–dump Cheney, make Colin Powerll VP and turn the war over to him.

“Wow… Good stuff. I hope the MSM gets wind of this.”

Matthews just mentioned it on Hardball

I’ve long arrgued Fitzgerald is building a Conspiracy case, and in that structure this decision to withhold clearly relevant information from Congress as part of a highly lawful Congressional Committee oversight inquiry would help sustain the pattern of Conspiracy, even though the individual act itself might not seem on the surface all that illegal. With Conspiracy it is the narrative that hangs defendants, not so much the individual piece of evidence taken as a single piece.

I would not even be surprised if they didn’t get this from the White House — but that Powell had Libby’s notes in his State Department Files, made them available to Fitzgerald, and then Fitzgerald forced them out of Libby or Cheney’s files.

And you can imagine the tension inside the White House with the Political Advisors being asked by Fitzgerald about Cheney and Libby making a decision to withhold from Congress against advice.

I think this gets Cheney at least an unindicted co-conspirator designation if not an indictment.

Next question should be: How witting was Senator Roberts about the withholding when he made the agreements on White House submissions?

Me, can you fill us in on some of the assistant attorneys helping Fitzgerald? I am worried about plants, but I am sure you’ve scouted them all out. Can you fill us in on what each strength’s are and how they are helping the investigation? Do you have faith in all of them or are there any in particular that could be moles? Thanks. Keep up the great work, man. Put these guys away. MeIsTheMan

Wilson46201 — you just made me spew my tea. That was hilarious. (And so sad that it might also have a ring of truth to it.)

Emptywheel – Fraud in the inducement. Did the senate know all of the documents that existed and negotiate on that basis. Or did the WH say we have x documents, while they really had x + y documents. Did the WH induce the senate to enter into the war through material misrepresentations of facts. I have to believe that if they did it is some type of crime ( impeachment)no?)

This is Colin Powell, having donned his Ninja-suit, crouched in the bushes, shooting poisoned blow-gun darts at everyone who made him play the fool. This is huge.

i see Karl Rove’s fingerprints on this one. ie Libby and Cheney are the really bad guys, they got us into this war, not Bush and me. This just smells of spin.

emptywheel: echoing Me’s point… Here isthe money quote:
After the release of the report, Intelligence Committee, Chairman Pat Roberts, R-Kan., and Vice Chairman Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., said they doubted that the Senate would have authorized the president to go to war if senators had been given accurate information regarding Iraq’s programs on weapons of mass destruction.

“I doubt if the votes would have been there,” Roberts said. Rockefeller asserted, “We in Congress would not have authorized that war, in 75 votes, if we knew what we know now.”

Contempt of Congress?

Digby’s in good form today:

“Pat Fitzgerald had better be prepared to be portrayed as a jack-booted, cross-dressing, gay Torquemada willing to do anything to please his Stalinist masters. Anyone who thought differently has not been paying attention.”

http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/

Meanwhile, over at Fox News, even more updates on Amish Sex Scandal.

The last sentance in the Waas article: “Now, as Libby battles back against possible charges by a special prosecutor, he might be seeking vindication on an entirely new level.”

That tea leaves some food for thought Mr. Wass….

Percy – They are all drug addled and at the wheel, that is the truly scary part.

A note on Me – His use of “Me” as his blog name is very clever, similar to Odysseus’ use of the name “noman” with the Cyclops. E.g. – “Who posted that? Me. Though I remain a Me fan.

The Waas article is incredibly damning… Regardless of legal significance. It’s a huge blow to the cockroaches that want to keep everything hidden, and the fact that it comes out now… Interesting timing.

It ties Cheney in very tightly… Senators on the Intellegence committee saying they would not have gone to war… If only they had known…

Wow… Good stuff. I hope the MSM gets wind of this.

What drives me crazy about the recent disclosures is that the events all preceded the presidential election. Had virtually anyone of them been made public last October, John kerry would be President. Where were the conservatives with a conscience or the democrats with a nose for unearthing dirt? Damn!

I doubt if the WH staff ever considered having GWB utter the name of the country of ‘Niger’. They know all too well how he reads a teleprompter…

I’m not sure it’s a plan at this point — my guess would be that this info on Cheney is just being “banked” — and one possible use would be as part of setting up the “Cheney’s office was out of control” damage control meme. To be used/referenced in the future for whatever direction they need to go in to protect POTUS — Georgie “It’s everyone’s fault but mine” Bush.

delay & his tataglia-like confreres now complain about the criminalisation of politics

but they are the inheritors of the dulles brothers criminal politics

they are criminals acting ut through politics

there is nothing in real terms that seperates the from the galantes, the gambinos, the genovese, the anastasias – their politics is not so far removed from the practice of murder incorporated

i’d suggest that the only difference is that the other crime families at least had the decency to not involve joe citizen in their deeds

vincent ‘the chin’ gigante has more character somnambulistic & in pajamas walking through the village than does bush cheney or powell before the united nations

delay frist dobson rove libby rumsfield et al are small time grifters who got big & they have taken down their country with them

they were not worth the trouble before
they are not worth the trouble now

These people are turning out to be their own worst enemies. Which is a good thing since apparently the dems don’t seem to be capable of bringing them down.
This would all be terribly funny if so many people hadn’t paid the price for their(BushCo) sheer arrogance and utter stupidity, with their lives.
Bush Co lied, people DIED. Can we say it any better or clearer than that?

Evil Parallel – The White House as FURTHUR… Now there’s an apt metaphor. But who is the drug-addled Cassady at the wheel? Cheney? Rove? W?

MeIsTheMan — I’ll bet so too!!! Me is so in the no its creepy but in a good way. I just hope he stays safe– U & I know what these bastards do to truthtelllers. They stop at nothing & cursh us like BUGS under their feet. They have no fellings just power. Anyhoo I am glad you are a Me Fan too. We love you ME! Keep telling the truth and God will keep you safe. If you believe that stuff.

Dover Bitch — in a word, A-yup!

Dan is right. This is not illegal, unless Fitz wants to use it to add another obstruction charge to Libby’s already burgeoning collection.

The SSCI and the WH made an agreement in November 2003 about what they would get and what they wouldn’t get. Roberts hailed it and pretended he had gotten everything. The Dems still had some outstanding requests, but for a variety of reasons (I’m working on a long post about it), they weren’t in a position to demand them. So the Dems no doubt have known what they didn’t get–even if they didn’t have the evidence of what it included.

And I will guarantee you (this is not speculation) that there are more bits withheld not by Libby (although he may have had a part in it), but by Hadley/Condi. In particular, I am 95% certain there are early versions of the SOTU that name Niger as the country with the uranium. Moreover, I have strong reason to believe Fitz is looking/has already looked into this withheld SOTU copy. In any case, rather than handing over the SOTU, Condi sent Robert Joseph down to SSCI to lie about those early copies. And that was good enough for Roberts.

Meet on the ledge
We’re gonna meet on the ledge
When the time is right I’m gonna
See all my friends

Meet on the ledge
We’re gonna meet on the ledge
If you really mean it
It all comes ’round again

it was Libby’s suggestions to Powell’s speech that they didn’t hand over. If those comments did not make it into Powell’s speech, is it contempt of Congress to withold them?

Boy would I have trouble. I have nothing BUT contempt of and for Congress…and the Office of the President…and the Pentagon (and I’m military!)…and the SCOTUS (since no-election 2000).

Yeah, that one by MITM did seem a little over the top, in my humble estimation….

Is it just errr….. myself, but does that MeIsTheMan post seem a bit like Me… not myself …. ahh forget it.

Me, I can tell you’re an insider. Good work. Its obvious you are going to play a major role in taking down the President. That is great. Thank you for all you are doing on behalf of the contry. How badly are they trying to get away from your wrath? Have you had direct contact with the perps lawyers trying to wiggle out of it? Stay strong, ME, don’t let them off the hook. We need heroes like you taking these guys down. I know you can’t reveal your full involvement, but it seems safe to say you are part of the process and are closely involved with indicting these guys. I’ll bet you are one of the main investigators. In any event, thank you again ME.

MeIsTheMan

“perfidious” sums it up well…..

what do they fear the most?

evidentially & concretely

the truth

Jane, nice post.

It reminded me that in the midst of some of my celebratory Shock and Awe around the fact that these guys are circling the drain, there are serious issues at the core of BushCo’s troubles.

Their committing perjury, and the deceitful, deceptive, delusive, delusory, dissembling, dissimulating, double-crossing, double-dealing, equivocating, false, falsifying, fibbing, guileful, inventing, knavish, mendacious, misleading, misrepresenting, misstating, perfidious, prevaricating, roguish, shifty, treacherous, tricky, two-faced, two-timing, unreliable, and untruthful, way they sold the war to the American people and the world, is finally coming back to haunt them. (Thanks Roget’s!)

Bling Crosby’s link in the previous thread, “Did Tenet Resign Because of Leak Scandal?” leads to this interesting timeline:

June 2, 2004: Bush speaks at Air Force Academy; Tenet meets him upon arrival at White House to tell him that he was going to resign.

June 2, 2004: McClellan tells press the night of June 2 that Bush hired an attorney.

June 3, 2004: In press gaggle, McClellan notes that Tenet called Card the afternoon of the 2nd to ask for meeting with Bush. Tenet and Bush meet for 45 minutes.

June 5, 2004: New York Times reports that Cheney was interviewed by Fitzgerald.

Thinkprogress’ Jennifer Palmieri continues: “Had Tenet found himself in the uncomfortable position of having to tell Fitzgerald some damaging information about the Vice President and thought he needed to leave the Administration because of it? Did Tenet deliver some bad news to Bush the evening he met with him that would prompt the White House to feel the need to announce that the President had sought outside legal counsel? ItÂ’s speculation, but there is no denying that the timing is curious.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2005/…..k-scandal/

Somebody- how do you hide a URL inside of a “Here”?

They are all going to push each other off the bus, and with an nod to UhClem, ending in impeachment. To paraphrase Tom Wolfe (I read the Electic Koolaid Acid Test a long time ago, so I am going with paraphrasing): you are either on the bus or off the bus. Bad tirp for Preznit and the unmerry pranksters.

Wow…. “Cheney’s resignation”….

Has a ring to it, doesn’t it?

I work in a federal building, and we have pictures of the Shrub and Count Chocula all over the building. Cheney has this smirk on his face that is supposed to pass for a smile, I guess. The man can’t even smile for his picture! At least Bush’s picture has him with a nice pleasant smile.

Boy, I would like to see those pictures gone.

David..good choice and I think my favorite dead song.

This group is really making me re-think my stand on capital punishment. Death would be too merciful for them. Their extraordinary disstain for democracy and our republic is certainly treason in it’s highest form. We, I fear are on the verge of losing our freedom. So if the execution of this cabal could restore our free society I would hardly endorse it’s use in this case.

I agree with Dan Robinson’s comment: As much as this shows arrogance on Libby and Cheney’s part, from my reading of the passage, it was Libby’s suggestions to Powell’s speech that they didn’t hand over. If those comments did not make it into Powell’s speech, is it contempt of Congress to withold them?

Would Dumbya really take a chance at pushing Big Time off the bus? Doesn’t Libby have a lot to say that might prove to be …..uh embarrassing?

Or, another possibility… releasing this info to the public leaves Bush an opening to demand Cheney’s resignation if he doesn’t get indicted. It may be as simple as that.

Sonofslothrop, that’s what I thought…sounds like throw Dickie from the train.

That line about “overruling political staffers” of course makes one think of Rove, nuts in a vice, singing his shriveled little heart out.

Innnnnteresting…

So, Cheney is essentially being set up by certain Bush administration officials to be run out on a rail.

I wonder if this means that there’s more chance of Cheney being indicted than we’d thought… or, conversely, if it means that Cheney ISN’T being indicted, but Card and company want him out of there anyway.

Can ya say impeachment, boys and girls? I knew that ya could. ;^)

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I have a question about this Murray Waas story. While I would hope that the members of the executive would cleave to a higher standard than “The coppers ain’t got nuttin’ on me”, I have grown to expect that they will find new ways to lower the bar for behavior. The question is this: did Libby et al. act illegally in not turning over these documents? What is the nature of the interaction by which these documents would have been produced? A letter? What is the legal standing of a letter of request? Is this in the area of “Contempt of Congress”?

The problem that I see is that while this is certainly arrogant and contemptible behavior on the part of Libby and Cheney (hardly new to them also) I don’t see the big deal. The problem with this is that it can so easily be cast as a matter of turf guarding, one which any Administration would do with regard to Congress.

It is pretty fucked up that we have come down to judging the performance of the Administration on whether or not the actions put people into legal jeopardy.

Christ Almighty, Damn!

If I instructed my kids to act the way the people of this Administration act, CPS would be itching to take them away from me.
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So the next time Stephen Hayes or some other right-wing hack tries to portray Pat Roberts’ “additional views’ about Joe Wilson as a ‘bipartisan rebuke’ of Wilson, now it can be pointed out that the entire report has been tainted by the Bush Administrations complete lack of honesty.

As ham-handed and dishonest as Roberts was I’m wondering what difference it would have made if they’d gotten everything under the sun. I’m so cynical anymore I make myself sick !!!

can anyone say contempt of congress?????

Puts quite an exclamation point on the empty suit theory.

Waas attributes this to “Bush administration and congressional sources”….hmnnn….sounds like bigtime is being set adrift.

“
If your mem’ry serves you well,
We were goin’ to meet again and wait,
So I’m goin’ to unpack all my things
And sit before it gets too late.
No man alive will come to you
With another tale to tell,
But you know that we shall meet again
If your mem’ry serves you well.
This wheel’s on fire,
Rolling down the road,
Best notify my next of kin,
This wheel shall explode!

If your mem’ry serves you well,
I was goin’ to confiscate your lace,
And wrap it up in a sailor’s knot
And hide it in your case.
If I knew for sure that it was yours . . .
But it was oh so hard to tell.
But you knew that we would meet again,
If your mem’ry serves you well.
This wheel’s on fire,
Rolling down the road,
Best notify my next of kin,
This wheel shall explode!

If your mem’ry serves you well,
You’ll remember you’re the one
That called on me to call on them
To get you your favors done.
And after ev’ry plan had failed
And there was nothing more to tell,
You knew that we would meet again,
If your mem’ry served you well.
This wheel’s on fire,
Rolling down the road,
Best notify my next of kin,
This wheel shall explode!”

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/i…..27bush.jpg

Photo of Bush taken today…

1) He has aged a year in the past couple months
2) His nose looks bloodshot to me, people say he is back on the sauce… Maybe so
3) Eyes puffy and lids heavy… The guy is not sleeping, even if they are tucking him in a 9:00 pm, he’s just tossing and kicking
4) He’s not even pretending interest, and he knows the camera is on him.

Photo from the front page of the NYT

ReddHedd-Wow. Thanks for the props below. I guess that’s my first (vicarious) blog post!

You’re doing a great job. Keep at it. We’ve got your back.
Otis

This wheel’s on fire,
Rolling down the road,
Best notify my next of kin,
This wheel shall explode!