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	<title>Comments on: I&#8217;ll Believe in Santa Claus Before I&#8217;ll Believe Dubya Didn&#8217;t Know About TraitorGate</title>
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		<title>By: wojo</title>
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		<dc:creator>wojo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2006 11:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Five months later - Jane the prophet!!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Five months later &#8211; Jane the prophet!!</p>
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		<title>By: torpor</title>
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		<dc:creator>torpor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Good Lord, deliver us, and teach us when  &lt;br /&gt;We may not, and we may, blind unjust men.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Lord, deliver us, and teach us when  <br />We may not, and we may, blind unjust men.</p>
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		<title>By: torpor</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2005/10/25/ill-believe-in-santa-claus-before-ill-believe-dubya-didnt-know-about-traitorgate/#comment-9515</link>
		<dc:creator>torpor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the quote, Barking.  It’s nice to remember a time when even the blind were so observant.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the quote, Barking.  It’s nice to remember a time when even the blind were so observant.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Your theory about the relationship between Dubya and his dad makes sense to me.  Interesting how Poppy chose to be interviewed this week about Bill Clinton.  This must be really pissing off little George ….&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Former President Bush Reminisces&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By MEAD GRUVER, Associated Press Writer Wed Oct 26, 1:03 AM ET&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;LARAMIE, Wyo. - Former President George H.W. Bush reminisced about his political life Tuesday and said at a fundraiser that he has enjoyed working with former&lt;br /&gt;President Clinton.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;“Who would have thought that I would be working with Bill Clinton, of all people?” said Bush, a Republican who teamed up with the Democrat this year to help victims of the Indian Ocean tsunami.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;He said he had nothing but praise for Clinton, even though people on the far right have criticized Bush Â— and people on the far left have criticized Clinton Â— for their working together.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your theory about the relationship between Dubya and his dad makes sense to me.  Interesting how Poppy chose to be interviewed this week about Bill Clinton.  This must be really pissing off little George ….</p>
<p><b>Former President Bush Reminisces</b></p>
<p>By MEAD GRUVER, Associated Press Writer Wed Oct 26, 1:03 AM ET</p>
<p>LARAMIE, Wyo. &#8211; Former President George H.W. Bush reminisced about his political life Tuesday and said at a fundraiser that he has enjoyed working with former<br />President Clinton.</p>
<p>“Who would have thought that I would be working with Bill Clinton, of all people?” said Bush, a Republican who teamed up with the Democrat this year to help victims of the Indian Ocean tsunami.</p>
<p>He said he had nothing but praise for Clinton, even though people on the far right have criticized Bush Â— and people on the far left have criticized Clinton Â— for their working together.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilding</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You are nailing it! &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s a titanic struggle between the Cheney Neocons and the Bush #41 Globalists … where the Globalists are piling on to get Bush #43 to clean house and preserve Jeb’s option for the Presidency … as well as simply slice and dice Cheney and the Neocons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The fascinating part is that either side needs the support of the people in order to finally win. And by being caught in their lies, the Neocons are on the ropes. Ain’t democracy grand?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Cheers)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Fade to black)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;(Roll credits)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Pass the popcorn, please. I’m staying until the credits are done rolling.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are nailing it! </p>
<p>It’s a titanic struggle between the Cheney Neocons and the Bush #41 Globalists … where the Globalists are piling on to get Bush #43 to clean house and preserve Jeb’s option for the Presidency … as well as simply slice and dice Cheney and the Neocons.</p>
<p>The fascinating part is that either side needs the support of the people in order to finally win. And by being caught in their lies, the Neocons are on the ropes. Ain’t democracy grand?</p>
<p>(Cheers)</p>
<p>(Fade to black)</p>
<p>(Roll credits)</p>
<p>Pass the popcorn, please. I’m staying until the credits are done rolling.</p>
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		<title>By: mls</title>
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		<dc:creator>mls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;CNN is reporting a poll where it is revealed 90% of Americans think the Bush administration has either done something illegal or unethical.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The other 10% have not been paying attention.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CNN is reporting a poll where it is revealed 90% of Americans think the Bush administration has either done something illegal or unethical.</p>
<p>The other 10% have not been paying attention.</p>
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		<title>By: xoblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>xoblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Swopa, I think that your analysis is wrong. It is clear from the rhetoric of the 2000 selection for president that Bush was going to Iraq no matter what. His sole motivation is apparently to supplant his Father’s legacy as the number one Bush with his own. I think that the WOT only distracted him from his neat, tidy saddam-wich that he wanted wrapped and ready to go by the 2004 election. If anything, the WOT is a mechanism of Cheney’s construction based on ways to funnel profits to haliburton, and secure both continued military efforts and also additional oil supplies. I’m not a tin foil hat kind of guy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are just taking the stuff out of Iraq in tankers right now in the middle of the night.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Swopa, I think that your analysis is wrong. It is clear from the rhetoric of the 2000 selection for president that Bush was going to Iraq no matter what. His sole motivation is apparently to supplant his Father’s legacy as the number one Bush with his own. I think that the WOT only distracted him from his neat, tidy saddam-wich that he wanted wrapped and ready to go by the 2004 election. If anything, the WOT is a mechanism of Cheney’s construction based on ways to funnel profits to haliburton, and secure both continued military efforts and also additional oil supplies. I’m not a tin foil hat kind of guy, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are just taking the stuff out of Iraq in tankers right now in the middle of the night.</p>
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		<title>By: ooofest</title>
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		<dc:creator>ooofest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Considering the aspen nature of this Bush staff (and self-interested, colluding parties), one might get the feeling that newly established talking points which seek to publicly undermine the meaning of any indictments would be absurd: it probably won’t have much impact on the legal system’s ability to prosecute based on evidence, testimony, etc.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, it would make for great “cover” with the public and media to both avoid an outcry for impeachment hearings . . . and, to “justify” later pardons.  In other words, this all seems at least 50% likely to protect GWB from being frog-marched if the Dems make significant gains in 2006.  With the added bonus of providing false rationalization for gainful pardons, of course.  Given the nature of Jane’s article, I’d consider it more than 50% likely that the President is being protected.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Great analysis, btw.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering the aspen nature of this Bush staff (and self-interested, colluding parties), one might get the feeling that newly established talking points which seek to publicly undermine the meaning of any indictments would be absurd: it probably won’t have much impact on the legal system’s ability to prosecute based on evidence, testimony, etc.</p>
<p>However, it would make for great “cover” with the public and media to both avoid an outcry for impeachment hearings . . . and, to “justify” later pardons.  In other words, this all seems at least 50% likely to protect GWB from being frog-marched if the Dems make significant gains in 2006.  With the added bonus of providing false rationalization for gainful pardons, of course.  Given the nature of Jane’s article, I’d consider it more than 50% likely that the President is being protected.</p>
<p>Great analysis, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Malooga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Malooga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It should be emphasized that most Ambassadors buy their positions. Joe Wilson is one of only a very few old schoolers who worked his way up and earned his position.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jr. was born with a silver straw up his nose.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be emphasized that most Ambassadors buy their positions. Joe Wilson is one of only a very few old schoolers who worked his way up and earned his position.</p>
<p>Jr. was born with a silver straw up his nose.</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Brain Blob,&lt;br /&gt;I think it was Ann Richards who said this about Shrub: “Poor George, he was born with a silver foot in his mouth.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brain Blob,<br />I think it was Ann Richards who said this about Shrub: “Poor George, he was born with a silver foot in his mouth.”</p>
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